How long do you keep Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly if they don't produce?

Don't forget:

1) Give Jason Campbell a long term deal
2) Cut Jason Campbell
3) Fire Stan Hixon
4) Get Zorn more help in terms of assistant coaches

Oh man i'm glad someone else understands we need to jettison Hixon...

What's the point of having a discussion forum if you can't criticize the team's decision makers from time to time? We all begin with the proposition that we WANT the Redskins to win. Otherwise we wouldn't be here. We'd be at the other one.

we didnt just get 3 guys in free agency - we got 3 STARTERS, and two of them are pro-bowlers. We also have resigned or tendered several players who were key contributors, if not starters, on our roster last year. You only look at the guys we brought in from outside and Hall - but you ignore that we resigned/tendered Albright, Doughty, Fincher, Montgommery, and Golston. We still may bring back Daniels and Washington. Free agency is not over.

As it stands right now, our 2009 starting roster is already signifcantly upgraded on both sides of the ball. And we still have the draft which includes the 13th overall pick in the draft. If we stay at 13, we've got another instant starter and possibly a pro-bowler. If we trade down, well use the pick on at least two players who have starting potential in 2009. Do we still have needs? yes. Will we still have needs even after the draft? Yes. But this is the same situation with every team in football. We are a better team now than we were last year and weve narrowed the gap between the talent on our team and the 2008 NFC-East champion Giants. I'm very happy about where our team is now in relation to where it was a year ago and anyone who thinks differently is going to have a hard time proving their case.

You say we have no draft picks, but we have 4 and will probably get a 7th round compensatory pick for losing Brunell last year.

we didnt just get 3 guys in free agency - we got 3 STARTERS, and two of them are pro-bowlers. We also have resigned or tendered several players who were key contributors, if not starters, on our roster last year. You only look at the guys we brought in from outside and Hall - but you ignore that we resigned/tendered Albright, Doughty, Fincher, Montgommery, and Golston. We still may bring back Daniels and Washington. Free agency is not over.

As it stands right now, our 2009 starting roster is already signifcantly upgraded on both sides of the ball. And we still have the draft which includes the 13th overall pick in the draft. If we stay at 13, we've got another instant starter and possibly a pro-bowler. If we trade down, well use the pick on at least two players who have starting potential in 2009. Do we still have needs? yes. Will we still have needs even after the draft? Yes. But this is the same situation with every team in football. We are a better team now than we were last year and weve narrowed the gap between the talent on our team and the 2008 NFC-East champion Giants. I'm very happy about where our team is now in relation to where it was a year ago and anyone who thinks differently is going to have a hard time proving their case.

You say we have no draft picks, but we have 4 and will probably get a 7th round compensatory pick for losing Brunell last year.I doubt that. We didn't draft him.

Thanks to the same technicality that we exploited to spread MB's cap hit over 6 years when restructuring his deal, it also means his departure from Washington was technically a "release" and therefore he's not part of the compensatory picks formula.

What's the point of having a discussion forum if you can't criticize the team's decision makers from time to time? We all begin with the proposition that we WANT the Redskins to win. Otherwise we wouldn't be here. We'd be at the other one.

I don't think any of us are saying that you shouldn't criticize the FO. The past couple of threads are criticizing fans that on the one hand want to "build through the draft" and on the other hand want the wideout rookies. Or make the point that if we only have 4 draft picks, then the team needed to use free agency to meet its needs.

Thanks to the same technicality that we exploited to spread MB's cap hit over 6 years when restructuring his deal, it also means his departure from Washington was technically a "release" and therefore he's not part of the compensatory picks formula.

my bad. I read an article speculating (with detailed analysis) which teams would receive comp picks and in which rounds. i took it at face value. i dont think a team has to draft a player to receive a comp pick, but its my understanding the player has to be a UFA because his contract expired, but if we technically "released" him, then obviously we wouldnt get anything.

personally, i dont think 7th round picks hold much value anyways. chances are, the player we would take in the 7th round would be a FA anyways. Yeah, i know we found Horton in the 7th last year, but there were only 3 picks in the draft after we selected him, if i remember, and i doubt any of those 3 teams were hoping to pounce on Horton. If we hadnt drafted him, he very likely would have been a FA and we could have signed him anyways.

I don't think any of us are saying that you shouldn't criticize the FO. The past couple of threads are criticizing fans that on the one hand want to "build through the draft" and on the other hand want the wideout rookies. Or make the point that if we only have 4 draft picks, then the team needed to use free agency to meet its needs.

right, but the argument that we didnt use free agency is stupid. Free agency isnt even two weeks old yet and so far weve signed:

Albert Hayneworth - Pro-bowl starter. Best DT in the league.
DeAngelo Hall - Pro-bowl Starter. Playmaker, interception machine.
Derrick Dockery - Starter
Ethan Albright - ST Starter
Anthony Montgommery - Starting quality DT
Kedric Golston - Starting qualtity DT
Alfred Fincher - Solid backup LB and great special teamer.

4 of those players will start in 2009. The other 3 will play extensively. I dont see how anyone can argue we havent used free agency to meet our needs. We've been one of the most aggressive teams out there.

personally, i dont think 7th round picks hold much value anyways. chances are, the player we would take in the 7th round would be a FA anyways. Yeah, i know we found Horton in the 7th last year, but there were only 3 picks in the draft after we selected him, if i remember, and i doubt any of those 3 teams were hoping to pounce on Horton. If we hadnt drafted him, he very likely would have been a FA and we could have signed him anyways.Agreed. Congrats on post # 500.

Thanks to the same technicality that we exploited to spread MB's cap hit over 6 years when restructuring his deal, it also means his departure from Washington was technically a "release" and therefore he's not part of the compensatory picks formula.

You 100% sure on that?