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GMScud 03-09-2009, 06:10 PM Yes, but there's some talk that he may be let go. He's reportedly doing really well and is ready to go. Just may not end up making the final roster in Minnesota. I don't think they'll let him go until after minicamp at least though.
Wasn't he a starter before his illness? I know they signed Jared Allen, but if Udeze is really doing so well, wouldn't he at least be good enough to make their 53 man? If not, I'm not so sure I'd want him. I'd take him over Wynn though, for sure.
Btw, "Andre Oher," huh? A little indecisive on which O-lineman you want today?
skinsnut 03-09-2009, 06:20 PM I've been reading these posts and I see some good points...however...
There is little risk in signing 2 DE's that are ex Starters ...in fact, it is pretty wise.
The only question is...what do they have left.
I truly believe that Daniels is still a starter in this league...he is very underrated and he is stout against the run...which worked quite well the year before he got injured...
His injury essentially cost us a 2nd and 6th round pick last year...that should tell you his value to the Front office...and ya know what?....his performance was WAY better than his replacement....on top of that, he's got an amazing attitude and is great for the locker room...not to mention something to prove...I hope they sign him for 2 years...maybe 3...he's in great shape....
I see Wynn as nothing more than a veteran backup in case Daniels aint ready to go....as well as a backup if Wilson, etc, continue to be situational players only...which at this point....they still are.
Either way, if Daniels is injured...we are kinda screwed for a starter and may need to go back to Taylor or others....or we go with a rookie from the draft with wynn, others by commitee.
To me, the best option is to sign Daniels now..he is quite motivated and we know what he can do...if we go into the draft without signing a starter, we will be forced to draft a DE high, and you know the FO will NEVER do that.
I think Daniels is a classic Redskin, a ton of heart, amazing attitude, very coachable and pretty damn good at stopping the run...sign him!
SmootSmack 03-09-2009, 06:24 PM Wasn't he a starter before his illness? I know they signed Jared Allen, but if Udeze is really doing so well, wouldn't he at least be good enough to make their 53 man? If not, I'm not so sure I'd want him. I'd take him over Wynn though, for sure.
Btw, "Andre Oher," huh? A little indecisive on which O-lineman you want today?
Everette Tyson Maualuga was too long :)
DIRTEE 03-09-2009, 06:51 PM Might as well bring back Erasmus James, he's gotta be healthy by now.
skinsfan69 03-09-2009, 06:57 PM Daniels is coming off a serious injury, didn't play or practice for a year and is in his mid 30's. Sorry but I really wouldn't count on him to be as an effective run stopper that he once was....and he was never a pass rusher. We need to draft someone or have Jackson step up in the worst way possible.
I was reading NFL.com today and Kyle Vanden Boush was signed as a minumum wage free agent a few years ago by Tenn. Now he's a pro bowl player and a top NFL DE. Maybe we can find someone like him. There are players out there that can play, some just need the chance.
GusFrerotte 03-09-2009, 07:02 PM You need at least one veteran D lineman to compliment Haynesworth. Putting all rooks or guys still with water behind the ears might lessen the impact of having Haynesworth. Sign the guys to a one year deal and see what happens. Who knows, maybe the will get beat outright for the starting positions, and this will be a moot issue. Remember this is a make or break year for Zorny and probably JC. I don't think the FO wants to roll the dice with rooks.
Nflnick11 03-09-2009, 08:04 PM Remember defense wins championships...worry about the dline and linebackers in the draft first then Oline second
The Goat 03-09-2009, 09:09 PM I'm not surprised there's a fair bit of disagreement about Daniels/Wynn. My take is if we have the cap room it's smart to sign both i.e. as long as it doesn't preclude us from signing help at our other positions of need (OLB and OT). Daniels still brings something to the table: bad-ass run stuffer, fantastic locker room guy, experience. Last year seemed like a freak injury but obviously age is a concern, which is why we need a legit guy to rotate at the position. I believe the only guy currently on the roster who can legitimately handle LDE is Carter, not any of the young inexperienced guys. That's why we sign Wynn too. Then we draft a DE in the 3rd or 5th round... Sidbury would be intriguing. My guess is the drafted guy beats out one among the current youngsters for the final DE spot on the roster... probably Buzbee or Jackson goes because Wilson has shown some flash as a speed-rusher RDE.
... from what others have said Blache really likes Daniels, however Blache is still a professional and clearly he believes a healthy Phillip is better than Evans. I'll trust his judgment. I would also guess Blache knows we're gonna f'ing fly on defense this year, and if Zorn can make something happen on the other side of the ball it could be a special year for the Skins... so maybe he also thinks Daniels deserves to be in on this cuz the guy has given heart and soul to the franchise in good times and bad. Maybe we're seeing loyalty where it's well deserved. Or maybe i'm just being sentimental.
mrreddman 03-09-2009, 09:38 PM Im kool with Daniels coming back, because if he is healthy he can be a nice strong veteran run stopper at DE. He can also slide inside if needed due to injuries inside. No problems at all bringing him back BUT Wynn???????.. Please!!!.. gimme a break, nice guy and all but he brings NOTHING to the table besides perhaps knowing our defense. He is a bit too small to be effective inside and too slow to rush the passer outside! Why waste our time with him? I would MUCH rather just give the time to Jackson, Buzbee, and/or Wilson and see what they can do....rather than resign Wynn..... Id rather sign La
Lotus 03-10-2009, 01:21 AM Neither Daniels nor Wynn represent the quality which is desired. Both are serviceable at best.
But there are too many holes in the roster. RT for one. SLB for another. DE for sure. Depth almost everywhere would be good, too.
Given this situation, and the fact that the team has only 4 draft picks (only 5 even in a trade-down), warm bodies of even mediocre quality are needed. Given the pickings left at RT and SLB, getting Daniels and/or Wynn, and seeing who performs in camp, is a good idea.
Sadly there are too many holes and not enough draft picks to fill 'em. Gotta make the best of a grim situation.
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