Redskins Reportedly Bringing OLs Elton Brown and Ray Willis in for Visit

Is that you, JLC?

That's not nice.

I'm gonna have to side with GTripp on the Rabach argument. I think the guy is on the downslide. Tripp breaks down more film than anyone not named Ron Jaworski, and has provided numerous examples (backed by stats mind you) on Rabach's shortcomings. Go back and read some of his offensive game charts from the regular season. Just because Rabach is durable doesn't mean he's one of our best lineman. He gets beat up at the point of attack all the time, especially by NTs in 3-4 defenses.

Was Rabach a liability in the 6-2 half of the season when we were one of the best rushing teams in the league? Or did he become a liability in the 2-6 half of the season where our All pro was hurt and ultimately shelved, his right guard was playing with a broken neck and the backup right tackle wore down.

If Samuels comes back healthy, Thomas fully recovers and they bring in a legitimate right tackle that Rabach will be just fine. I find it hard to dismiss Rabach when the healthy first unit was kicking butt and arguably one of the top units in the league.

i think willis may be getting pumped up a bit too much. i'm not sure he's really a HUGE upgrade over heyer, he's just the best of a (weak) OT market that may have some upside... still, he wouldn't be expensive, but if I wanted to draft an OT and we signed him, I wouldn't hesitate to draft an OT anyways.

Was Rabach a liability in the 6-2 half of the season when we were one of the best rushing teams in the league? Or did he become a liability in the 2-6 half of the season where our All pro was hurt and ultimately shelved, his right guard was playing with a broken neck and the backup right tackle wore down.

If Samuels comes back healthy, Thomas fully recovers and they bring in a legitimate right tackle that Rabach will be just fine. I find it hard to dismiss Rabach when the healthy first unit was kicking butt and arguably one of the top units in the league.Well, they did some things with the blocking schemes to cover for him in the first half of the year that they couldn't do in the second half of the year. So you could say that he was more successful in the first eight games than the second.

Getting Samuels and Thomas back should absolutely make the line better, but I'm not sure how that makes Rabach's inability to pass block or move a nose tackle even one inch less of a liability.

Did Willis leave today with a contract offer?

That's not nice.My apologies. You cited Bugel as an argument (who neither he or you ever speaks to), and I got confused ;)

Was Rabach a liability in the 6-2 half of the season when we were one of the best rushing teams in the league? Or did he become a liability in the 2-6 half of the season where our All pro was hurt and ultimately shelved, his right guard was playing with a broken neck and the backup right tackle wore down.

If Samuels comes back healthy, Thomas fully recovers and they bring in a legitimate right tackle that Rabach will be just fine. I find it hard to dismiss Rabach when the healthy first unit was kicking butt and arguably one of the top units in the league.

even at 6-2 we really weren't a top OL... the running yards were okay, but 16 sacks in 8 games... (then we gave up 7 in week 9 to pit). the giants gave up 6 sacks in the first 8 weeks (including 0 to pit). not close.

How can you get ticked off at
a) something that hasn't even happened yet
b) is not something that happened last time TO was a free agent
c) unlikely due to cap availabilty (notice i did not say impossible, just unlikely)

d) vinny already said no to bringing in T.O.

Well, they did some things with the blocking schemes to cover for him in the first half of the year that they couldn't do in the second half of the year. So you could say that he was more successful in the first eight games than the second.

Getting Samuels and Thomas back should absolutely make the line better, but I'm not sure how that makes Rabach's inability to pass block or move a nose tackle even one inch less of a liability.

I certainly haven't put in the tape time that you have but you summarized my assumption. That with Samuels healthy, Kendall could help Rabach more and that Thomas could help Rabach more when he was healthy and Jansen was playing better.

I would expect any offensive line playing two backup tackles and two older banged up guards to look pretty bad on tape.

d) vinny already said no to bringing in T.O.

I don't think they are bringing in TO, but "Vinny said so" doesn't rank very high on my list of convincing arguments.