Redskins Reportedly Bringing OLs Elton Brown and Ray Willis in for Visit

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Paintrain
03-05-2009, 02:14 PM
I hope they don't let Willis out of the building without a contract offer. Jansen's been done for years so it's about time we're getting around to replacing him. If we make that move we can make Jansen a backup RT and RG, Heyer our backup LT, Rinehart our backup LG and we can focus on LB/DE with #13 taking Orapko or Rey M.

BigHairedAristocrat
03-05-2009, 02:17 PM
I hope they don't let Willis out of the building without a contract offer. Jansen's been done for years so it's about time we're getting around to replacing him. If we make that move we can make Jansen a backup RT and RG, Heyer our backup LT, Rinehart our backup LG and we can focus on LB/DE with #13 taking Orapko or Rey M.

unless he spent the night, i'm pretty sure Willis left the building without a contract yesterday.

BigHairedAristocrat
03-05-2009, 02:22 PM
Given all of the same players, I'd have Smith at RG and Willis at RT.

Why draft a guy at 13 to play guard? If we draft Smith, he'd HAVE to play RT to justify the pick. However, if Oher and Smith were both available at 13, and we took Smith over Oher, who can play LT, we'd be fools.

I'd also start said third round center, without even knowing who I'm starting.
You must have forgotten what we did with our 3rd round pick in 2008. I dont trust the skins to correctly judge talent of 3rd round lineman at the present. Rabach was the 2nd best lineman on our roster last year.

freddyg12
03-05-2009, 02:27 PM
Let's not get carried away & think that even if both of these guys sign that our O line is set. I'm all for signing both (if reasonable $ wise) & drafting an OT w/the #13 if one of the top 4 is there. We need an immediate solution to RT (which I think could be a rook) & a long-term replacement at LT.

I remember E. Brown at UVA. I thought he was a farily highly rated prospect, but I haven't heard much about him in the nfl.

Pocket$ $traight
03-05-2009, 02:31 PM
About freaking time. I've been waiting for this for a while. Being an O-Line junkie I would love to see the team sign Ray Willis then draft Andre Smith in the first and a Center in the third. Then have a starting lineup like so:

LT - Chris Samuals
LG - Derrick Dockery
C - Casey Rabach
RG - Ray Willis
RT - Andre Smith

Backups - Stephon Heyer, Jon Jansen, 3rd Round Center, Chad Rhinehart, Randy Thomas

Of course thats kind of overkill but I wouldn't mind that one bit. Still if they do sign Willis that'll help free us up to truly take the BPA and my money's on Maualuga based on Vinny's infatuation with the guy.

Ray Willis is going to come off the street and bump Randy Thomas to the bench? I doubt that.

Why are people giving up on Randy Thomas? He was good in the beginning of the year and was decent down the stretch even with a broken neck.

GTripp0012
03-05-2009, 02:51 PM
Why draft a guy at 13 to play guard? If we draft Smith, he'd HAVE to play RT to justify the pick. However, if Oher and Smith were both available at 13, and we took Smith over Oher, who can play LT, we'd be fools.


You must have forgotten what we did with our 3rd round pick in 2008. I dont trust the skins to correctly judge talent of 3rd round lineman at the present. Rabach was the 2nd best lineman on our roster last year.Rabach was like the 7th best lineman on our roster last year. Maybe. Put it this way: playing the "which doesn't belong" game with the Redskins line during tape study isn't very challenging.

I did say given the talent proposed in Dirtbag's proposal, I'd have Willis outside and Smith inside. That's just what I'd do. It's not like I feel like Smith is incapable of handling RT, I'd just play him at his best position in order to win games.

Paintrain
03-05-2009, 02:53 PM
unless he spent the night, i'm pretty sure Willis left the building without a contract yesterday.

Oh, my bad. Well hopefully an offer is forthcoming.

BigHairedAristocrat
03-05-2009, 02:54 PM
Rabach was like the 7th best lineman on our roster last year. Maybe. Put it this way: playing the "which doesn't belong" game with the Redskins line during tape study isn't very challenging.

No way Rabach is worse than Jansen, Heyer, Thomas or any of our backups. At worst, he was our third best lineman behind Kendall and Samuels. I'm not saying I think Rabach is a stud - Center needs to be upgraded... its just the rest of our line is so bad. I think Rabach would play better with Dockery and someone other than Thomas beside him... whereas i dont think Randy would benefit much from having a better RT and Center beside him.



I did say given the talent proposed in Dirtbag's proposal, I'd have Willis outside and Smith inside. That's just what I'd do. It's not like I feel like Smith is incapable of handling RT, I'd just play him at his best position in order to win games.

Is that because you doubt Smiths ability or you have some supreme confidence in Willis?

GTripp0012
03-05-2009, 02:56 PM
Is that because you doubt Smiths ability or you have some supreme confidence in Willis?Well, if we're bringing in Willis, it's not to play RG.

I do doubt Smith's ability, to an extent, but if he's there at 13, I'm taking him and putting him in the best position to succeed no questions asked.

Assuming that Oher and Orakpo aren't there.

franklinhimself
03-05-2009, 02:58 PM
lets not even pretend about what's going to happen:

the FO will sign TO to a 2-year deal on this judgement: he can command double teams, open up Moss, ARE, Cooley, and let Portis run to the left. If we're putting up more points, defense doesn't have to be as stellar- so we can get away w/ not addressing either LB or DE.

PISSES ME OFF.

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