PFT rumor: TITANS TO PURSUE TAMPERING CHARGES AGAINST REDSKINS?

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CRedskinsRule
03-12-2009, 02:14 PM
and he said that they had been talking.
I am sure DS/VC had a nice long talk with Rock to clarify who the "he" [presumably Malcolm Kelly] and the "they"[i am sure the clarification would be Kelly and his agent had been talking, not DS and Kelly's agent] were in that sentence. Again, what has been put in public is just good for stirring up blogs/hits/readership, not any actual proof that would be needed.

BigHairedAristocrat
03-12-2009, 03:13 PM
That's textbook tampering. The Bears got a pick from the 49ers for tampering with Lance Briggs, and they seemed to have much less evidence.

The league office investigated the matter and went through the e-mails of the 49ers FO members that proved tampering. They never revealed the contents of the e-mails, but it was supposedly convincing. There were also phone calls that corresponded with times mentioned in those e-mails, if memory serves me.

While its possible Snyder and Vinnys emails contain damning evidence of some sort, we're not there yet. Snyders having dinner with Haynesworth's agent and 4th person hearsay is not enough evidence to make Goddell do anything.

Also, for arguments sake, nothing Cartwright said alleges tampering. the "they" he mentioned does not directly point to the Redskins FO and Speck. Cartwright could have easily been referring to:

Kelly and Haynesworth
Kelly and Speck about Haynesworth
Speck and Haynesworth

Cartwright never states that the FO had been talking to Speck about Haynesworth.

SmootSmack
03-12-2009, 03:29 PM
The league office investigated the matter and went through the e-mails of the 49ers FO members that proved tampering. They never revealed the contents of the e-mails, but it was supposedly convincing. There were also phone calls that corresponded with times mentioned in those e-mails, if memory serves me.

While its possible Snyder and Vinnys emails contain damning evidence of some sort, we're not there yet. Snyders having dinner with Haynesworth's agent and 4th person hearsay is not enough evidence to make Goddell do anything.

Also, for arguments sake, nothing Cartwright said alleges tampering. the "they" he mentioned does not directly point to the Redskins FO and Speck. Cartwright could have easily been referring to:

Kelly and Haynesworth
Kelly and Speck about Haynesworth
Speck and Haynesworth

Cartwright never states that the FO had been talking to Speck about Haynesworth.

But that's not nearly as exciting as calling all this speculation "textbook, without a shadow of a doubt, tampering"

Good post though

BigHairedAristocrat
03-12-2009, 03:41 PM
But that's not nearly as exciting as calling all this speculation "textbook, without a shadow of a doubt, tampering"

Good post though

I think Florio and JLCs doom and gloom flair for the dramatic is contagious.

firstdown
03-12-2009, 03:52 PM
idk man. to me i think we look like the asses. yeah i know its hard to prove and most everyone does it but . . . i do believe there is some kind of gentlemen's agreement among owners/GMs and you dont see other owners getting their names in articles talking about dinners with agents before FA began.

snyder is probaly the most unliked owner when he goes to the owner meetings and ive read that they are going to address the tampering issue when they meet. im sure all eyes wil be turning to DS.

DS knows no ethics, he is quite the ass as a business person from everything ive read about him. its a shame our franchise has to be hog-tied to his way of doing things. maybe im oldschool but i like doing things the right way even if others are doing it otherwise.

go skins!!

Please inform us how you know and why you say DS has no ethics or is just because he is rich that has to be the case.

Ruhskins
03-12-2009, 04:09 PM
idk man. to me i think we look like the asses. yeah i know its hard to prove and most everyone does it but . . . i do believe there is some kind of gentlemen's agreement among owners/GMs and you dont see other owners getting their names in articles talking about dinners with agents before FA began.

snyder is probaly the most unliked owner when he goes to the owner meetings and ive read that they are going to address the tampering issue when they meet. im sure all eyes wil be turning to DS.

DS knows no ethics, he is quite the ass as a business person from everything ive read about him. its a shame our franchise has to be hog-tied to his way of doing things. maybe im oldschool but i like doing things the right way even if others are doing it otherwise.

go skins!!

The league did not pursue tampering charges against Parcells and the Dolphins, who signed Justin Smiley minutes into the free agency period last year. This story is just the opinion of the PFT.com people, and no other reputable news source has seriously reported on this.

Early signings by Dolphins, 49ers kick off frantic free-agency period - NFL - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3270118)

Less than a hour after the 12:01 a.m. start to free agency, the Dolphins reached a five-year, $25 million deal with 49ers guard Justin Smiley that included a $9 million guarantee.

over the mountain
03-16-2009, 12:42 PM
Please inform us how you know and why you say DS has no ethics or is just because he is rich that has to be the case.

Park Place - Cheap Seats - Washington City Paper (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/display.php?id=2344)

go skins!!

SmootSmack
03-16-2009, 12:48 PM
Park Place - Cheap Seats - Washington City Paper (http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/display.php?id=2344)

go skins!!

The Dan Snyder You Don't Know - Sports (washingtonian.com) (http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/sports/1679.html)

gibbsisgod
03-16-2009, 01:33 PM
The Dan Snyder You Don't Know - Sports (washingtonian.com) (http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/sports/1679.html)



I ask Snyder if he’s a Republican.
“Yes,” he says. He says he voted for George Bush. “But I am very angry with Bush. I don’t like what he’s doing in foreign affairs, and I think he’s messing up the economy.”


Not rying to turn this thread political but I thought this was amusing.

htownskinfan
04-02-2009, 11:37 PM
looks like new info
Report: Tennessee Titans ask NFL to investigate if Albert Haynesworth was contacted early by Washington Redskins - ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4035877)

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