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SBXVII 03-10-2009, 11:49 AM Seems to me you can talk, tamper, fidget, swindle, persuade, wine and dine all you want and it won't matter. The only words that matter (no matter WHEN they are said) are the number of years, total salary, signing bonus, etc. I don't care how much you talk prior to being able to sign someone...the agents will find the deal that best fits the player. Whether it's a guy looking to get paid or a guy looking for his best chance at a Championship. Albert Haynesworth had a list of terms and contract criteria that his agent had to work with when finding a new deal. The bottom line is whoever gave them that deal was getting his services. The rest of this is sour grapes on the part of the Titans. They had plenty of opportunity PRIOR to the opening of free agency to negotiate a deal where they could have kept him off the market. Dan Snyder made it work (with salary cap magic) and the Titans could have as well.
Thank you and have a nice day!
HAIL!!
I totally agree. Also how do we not know that the agent requested dinner with DS? How do we not know the agent brought up the terms and conditions? It's only tampering if the Skins or representative for the team ie; DS contacted the agent and spoke about details in regards to a contract. If the Skins are going to get it then I think Drew Rosenhause(sp) should be fined or told not to deal contracts also cause he shopped 3 players prior to Free Agency.
jdlea 03-10-2009, 11:52 AM I totally agree. Also how do we not know that the agent requested dinner with DS? How do we not know the agent brought up the terms and conditions? It's only tampering if the Skins or representative for the team ie; DS contacted the agent and spoke about details in regards to a contract. If the Skins are going to get it then I think Drew Rosenhause(sp) should be fined or told not to deal contracts also cause he shopped 3 players prior to Free Agency.
Good point; Rosenhaus did send out a league-wide email saying that Plax, Chad Ocho Cinco and Anquan Boldin, who are all under contract with teams, were available for trades.
SBXVII 03-11-2009, 05:04 PM I couldn't find the proper place for this so I'll stuff it here. Other Skins boards are happy Vinnie did his homework. lol. Hopefully this does not get ugly or the Commish makes him sit out games.
Jury To Consider Charges For Former Titan - News- msnbc.com (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29596055/)
Skinny Tee 03-11-2009, 11:27 PM ProFootballTalk.com - MORE EVIDENCE OF HAYNESWORTH TAMPERING (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/11/more-evidence-of-haynesworth-tampering/)
...Rock trying to get us got.
Lotus 03-11-2009, 11:58 PM But as far as I have heard no one is even alleging this. (Remember that the opening bell is 12:01 ET, or 11:01pm in Tennessee.) Do you have a story or link that says they did?
No I don't. I'm just saying that other evidence (including Rock's mouth) is speculative, but if premature phone records do surface, that would be damning.
CRedskinsRule 03-12-2009, 08:07 AM No I don't. I'm just saying that other evidence (including Rock's mouth) is speculative, but if premature phone records do surface, that would be damning.
I heard Rock that morning on the radio and did a double take. Listening to it again, the pronouns get all jumbled, and I am sure it can't be held as "proof".
If a video of DS handing AH 1,000,000 in cash in a dark alley, while Vinny stands look out, and gauging street walkers on their WR or ninja skills, that would be pretty damning too!
dmek25 03-12-2009, 09:31 AM that article claims the skins lost a draft pick over tampering with Lance Briggs. is this correct? my minds alittle fuzzy right now
CRedskinsRule 03-12-2009, 09:34 AM I believe San Fran lost a draft pick over Lance Briggs
that article claims the skins lost a draft pick over tampering with Lance Briggs. is this correct? my minds alittle fuzzy right now
Some dope said that in the comments section, it's not correct.
SBXVII 03-12-2009, 09:45 AM ProFootballTalk.com - MORE EVIDENCE OF HAYNESWORTH TAMPERING (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/11/more-evidence-of-haynesworth-tampering/)
...Rock trying to get us got.
Yeah, Rock is there smoking gun.
I'll say again. There's a lot of I'm guessing it happened and more then likely it did. but I truly hope they are not hanging their hats on the fact:
“I kind of had an idea they were going to sign [Haynesworth] anyways,” Cartwright said. “One of my teammates said they had the same agent and . . . he said they had been talking (http://www.stationcaster.com/player.php?s=65&c=427&f=22081).”
There is no doubt that Snyder and Haynesworth agent was talking. The question is what were they talking about. One could infer it was about Haynesworth but we truly don't know cause we were not at the dinner.
Let me get the Skins in trouble also maybe the Titans will use me as a witness...."I kinda of had an idea the Skins were going to sign Haynesworth anyways also." If DS wants something he will pay for it. We pretty much heard the day before that DS was going to out bid the Titans for Haynesworth. So I already had an idea.
Now knowing no one is a moron, I'm betting DS did talk about Haynesworth. but I will repeat what I said before. No matter if the deal got done at 12:01 (which it didn't. It was done at like 4 or 5am) or 10 days later, DS wanted AH. DS was going to out bid the Titans for AH. If AH wanted to stay with the Titans he would have told us no and signed with the Titans. If the Titans truly wanted to keep AH they would not have let the Skins out bid them for him. The Titans would not have let AH hit the open market. It's apparent AH did not like the deal the Titans were offering so he decides he wanted to test FA. AH leaves for another team that offered a better contract and the Titans did nothing. Now they are upset cause their whole Defense was designed around AH who was apparently their cog that makes the defense work and they let him go.
That's like designing an offense around Payton Manning and then letting another team take him away in FA. Now you have an offense that is going to go no where cause you failed to make sure you didn't lose your most intricate piece to the puzzel. I think if I was a Titans fan I wouldn't be mad at DS I would be mad at the Titans team owner for not offereing a more lucrative contract that would not have made AH want to test the market. Now all the Titans...owner, coach's, and fans are boo hooing. Suck it up and draft a nose tackle. have a nice day.,
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