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53Fan
03-03-2009, 05:13 PM
For whatever it's worth on Willis.....Scout.com: 2009 Free Agency-Guard (http://profootball.scout.com/2/828691.html)

GTripp0012
03-03-2009, 05:15 PM
I don't know if I would say that Blades is better than Rocky. In the beginning of the year, Rocky is a beast.

James is out there if we want him!I did notice that about McIntosh, but Blades was a beast all year (given of course the fact that he didn't play much in the first few weeks before Washington's injury).

He's a fantastic young prospect -- although I wouldn't want to see him chasing a tight end across the field ever again.

Moving Rocky to SLB should simplify the reads for him a bit, which might help him produce, but I think 2009 is it for him here. He's a non-tender candidate after this year.

Blades is a candidate for a long term deal if he improves this year, I think.

SmootSmack
03-03-2009, 05:18 PM
I'm of the opinion that Heyer has great fundamentals and can start in this league, but he's just so unbelievably raw. It's incredible if he has to run a toss play or kick out the backer or something he just has no idea where the player is.

That's the thing, is that Heyer only has one more year to show progress in that aspect, or he becomes too costly to keep around.

So where, if anywhere, do you see Devin Clark falling into all of this? I found it kind of interesting that both he and Vinny have mentioned Clark (along with Rinehart) as guy they're expecting to step up for 2009?

Second question, suppose we bring Daniels back (or even if we don't) with Haynesworth, Griffin, Monty, and Golston would you entertain any thoughts of sending Alexander back to the offensive side of the ball?

skinsfan_nn
03-03-2009, 05:21 PM
Well, we'd be fine starting Blades, who is a better player than McIntosh, but Chris Wilson can't be an everydown player.

You know, you'd think since we bothered to hold Erasmus James through the entire season last year, we would have kept him on into this year...but no.

Not quite, he was cut on 12/9. And keep him for what? Both Wilson and Jackson had both passed James on the depth chart. James played in a dozen to 15 plays all year, cut the cord, he was worthless.

vallin21
03-03-2009, 05:42 PM
Uhhhh no. He was pushed into duty as an undrafted free agent his rookie season. Last year, he played one game at RT before going down with an injury. The rest of the year, he played at LEFT tackle when Samuels went down.

So we havent seen anything from Heyer yet. Hes entering his third year and the only thing he has shown is that he's one heck of a backup who has improved leaps and bounds every year and hes a guy. He was never, ever humiliated when playing LT. In all honesty, he did ok there, although we would never want him to start there.

All Heyer has done is get better and succeed at everything he's been asked to do. He's dirt cheap and has a ton of upside. However, in the end, we someone who can start at left takle so Samuels can move right.

Bottom line is that Heyer is NOT a starting OT in the league. Willis has more experience and fits Zorn and his scheme, therefore I would easily take Willis ahead of a proven backup (Heyer). Hopefully they sign Willis so that he can get a shot at starting.

GTripp0012
03-03-2009, 05:44 PM
So where, if anywhere, do you see Devin Clark falling into all of this? I found it kind of interesting that both he and Vinny have mentioned Clark (along with Rinehart) as guy they're expecting to step up for 2009?

Second question, suppose we bring Daniels back (or even if we don't) with Haynesworth, Griffin, Monty, and Golston would you entertain any thoughts of sending Alexander back to the offensive side of the ball?I don't see Devin Clark fitting in anywhere. It's interesting though, unless Jansen bumps inside, we currently don't have a backup Guard or Center under contract, outside of Rinehart. If Clark can handle, say, Right Guard, he might have a future. At tackle, no.

I would not send Alexander back to the offensive side under any circumstances. He's a bad blocker, and has no redeeming qualities. But as a defensive player, he can play the 3 shade or the nose equally well (although we go three deep at the nose now), and has very good skills.

BigHairedAristocrat
03-03-2009, 07:58 PM
Bottom line is that Heyer is NOT a starting OT in the league. Willis has more experience and fits Zorn and his scheme, therefore I would easily take Willis ahead of a proven backup (Heyer). Hopefully they sign Willis so that he can get a shot at starting.

Whatever delusions you have about Willis, you have no evidence to make your "bottom line" point that Heyer isnt a starting OT in this league. Heyer is supposed to be a RT and he's never had significant playing time there since his rookie season... when he impressed. Considering he had to play LT in place of a pro-bowler last year, i would say he was pretty darn impressive last year too.

Weve never heard anything from people within redskins park indicating they didnt think Heyer was not a starting caliber RT. We have some in the organizaiton who think he can be. others have doubts, but no one has indicated theres no way hes a starting RT - so how in the world did you reach that conclusion?

BigHairedAristocrat
03-03-2009, 08:02 PM
I don't see Devin Clark fitting in anywhere. It's interesting though, unless Jansen bumps inside, we currently don't have a backup Guard or Center under contract, outside of Rinehart. If Clark can handle, say, Right Guard, he might have a future. At tackle, no.


agreed. Im not expecting much from either of them in 2010 though. Both would be lucky to make the active roster at any point during the season.

On another subject, am i the only one a little troubled by the fact that we have 13M in cap space and arent doing anything to improve our team after losing Springs and Taylor?

skinsfan_nn
03-03-2009, 08:07 PM
agreed. Im not expecting much from either of them in 2010 though. Both would be lucky to make the active roster at any point during the season.

On another subject, am i the only one a little troubled by the fact that we have 13M in cap space and arent doing anything to improve our team after losing Springs and Taylor?

Huh..? They just got the money freed up yesterday.

Givem a week or so to spend some of the loot, damn. Did you think they would spend the cash over night?

Patience grasshopper!

CRedskinsRule
03-03-2009, 08:15 PM
Huh..? They just got the money freed up yesterday.

Givem a week or so to spend some of the loot, ***. Did you think they would spend the cash over night?

Patience grasshopper!

But we know they are impulsive and don't have any plans, so they should be spending it as fast as they get it. (and actually, I kinda figured they would have signed someone by now also)

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