WaldSkins
03-02-2009, 10:07 PM
My first priority would be to sign Crowell especially if Fletcher told the FO he is a good player and he's 27. He can be a 1-2 year starter and if his knees hold up we can think about giving him a long term deal, but I would give him a 2 yr 4 million dollar deal w/ incentives (staying healthy). I agree with most of you guys about signing Willis, and drafting Orakpo and make him our DE.
Don't we already have a LB with bad knees(Mcintosh)
saden1
03-02-2009, 10:08 PM
This was a surprise, I would have thought he would at least play one more year. What a f'ing waste of a draft pick.
SmootSmack
03-02-2009, 10:10 PM
It'd be kind of ironic if the Bucs pass on Crowell in order to sign Jason Taylor and then we swoop in and get Crowell.
Pocket$ $traight
03-02-2009, 10:12 PM
This was a surprise, I would have thought he would at least play one more year. What a f'ing waste of a draft pick.
Two draft picks...
I am starting to really get pissed over this.
I think you can make the argument that even after adding Haynesworth, Hall and Dockery that we aren't any better than our opening day roster last year now that we have lost Taylor, Springs and Washington (also assuming that Kendall is gone).
A whole lot of money spent and nothing to show for it...
vallin21
03-02-2009, 10:14 PM
Don't we already have a LB with bad knees(Mcintosh)
I'm willing to take the risk WaldSkins, and if he doesn't work out we don't take a cap hit. I see this as a low risk/high reward deal. He can play all the LB positions and he's still 27. I would then sign Willis and then take Orakpo at 13.
The Goat
03-02-2009, 10:15 PM
Yeah Crowell is a huge risk... sort of similar to the DE we had as a backup part of the last year (name?). I think some people aren't facing reality: there's very little LB talent left in FA... the younger/healthier guy June is too small. The rest are pretty questionable SO WHOEVER WE BRING ON IS EITHER FOR DEPTH OR A SPOT STARTER. Sorry for yelling. Meanwhile Evans, surprise, is listed right near the top in DE talent left in FA. Sign Evans tonight. Keep Daniels on at vet min for an insurance policy and because he's an important locker room leader. Bottom line: we basically have to come away from the draft w/ a legit starter at LB.
This is the way I see the defense... and btw Orakpo ain't falling to us @ 13 and it's for the best. Kid has phenom physique but will be oft injured in the NFL...
mrreddman
03-02-2009, 10:17 PM
how about crowell AND burnett? not like we are loaded at LB
The Goat
03-02-2009, 10:17 PM
Two draft picks...
I am starting to really get pissed over this.
I think you can make the argument that even after adding Haynesworth, Hall and Dockery that we aren't any better than our opening day roster last year now that we have lost Taylor, Springs and Washington (also assuming that Kendall is gone).
A whole lot of money spent and nothing to show for it...
Ah ha. Another advocate for bringing Marcus back ;) Can't agree w/ you on Springs and Taylor though as neither contributed much last year.
... and we will be more talented on both sides of the ball come opening day ;)
SmootSmack
03-02-2009, 10:17 PM
Two draft picks...
I am starting to really get pissed over this.
I think you can make the argument that even after adding Haynesworth, Hall and Dockery that we aren't any better than our opening day roster last year now that we have lost Taylor, Springs and Washington (also assuming that Kendall is gone).
A whole lot of money spent and nothing to show for it...
I think just their age and durability issues as they get older make Dockery and Hall improvements over Kendall and Springs. That doesn't even include Washington's issues staying healthy. And Haynesworth is arguably better than all of them combined at this point in their career.
But yeah, the experiment failed with Jason Taylor. But now we got to make some pina colada out of this coconut and take advantage of these $8 million we have.
franklinhimself
03-02-2009, 10:18 PM
I could see the FO being a more realistically short-sided than they have been. We've signed a good bunch of younger FA talent. We'll prob sign two of these three DEs:
Daniels- 36
Evans- 29
Bert Berry- 34 (Arizona)
hell, maybe all three. gives us experience and depth for not too much money, and leaves more room to address the OL/LB spots