Munching the Mocks: Andre Smith now leads for Redskins

I'd take Smith I don't care if he can do an interview, Interview's don't block D-Lineman. I say check him out in Private workout and judge him on football skills. F%^k the Interviews. As long as there's no drugs or crime I say take him..

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Trade down and load up with picks.

I'd prefer to trade down and draft Mack and get some extra picks. Rabach isn't getting any younger and I'd be willing to bet Mack could play guard also which is good because Randy Thomas is starting to break down.

I second that.

Getting back into the second round of the draft is imperative for the Skins. With our first round pick, hopefully to occur in the latter half of the first round, I covet Connor Barwin, a 4-3 defensive end / 3-4 linebacker out of Cincinnati. This guy was a two-way player for Cincinnati and ran a 4.66 40 at the combine. He had 15½ tackles for loss, 11 sacks and seven pass breakups in his one season on defense.

He played tight end and special teams from 2005 through 2007, caught 53 balls for 692 yards and six touchdowns.

I'm just putting it out there.

Here's how I look at it;
We need in order from most needed to least needed, on the Oline:
A tackle, then a guard, then a center now by the time we pick these guys and these values they have should be available:
Michael Oher, can play T or G (2 needs in one pick) round: mid to late first
Andre smith, can play T or G (2) first
Eben Britton, can play T (1) late first
Alex mack, can play C or G (2) late first mid 2nd
Eric wood can play C or G (2) 2nd
Max unger can play C, G, or T (3) 2nd
Will Beaty can play T (1) late 1st- 2nd
Jamon meredith can play T or G (2) 2nd-3rd
Phil loadholt T only 2nd-3rd
Duke Robinson G maybe T (1.5) 2nd
Johnathan luigis C maybe G (1.5) 3rd to 4th
Antoine caldwell C, G (2) 3rd to 5th


I figure we trade down, and trade betts and Jansen, get a 20's range pick and an early second rounder for Oher and alex mack, and with the 3rd rounder we get an OLB or DE

Here's how I look at it;
We need in order from most needed to least needed, on the Oline:
A tackle, then a guard, then a center now by the time we pick these guys and these values they have should be available:
Michael Oher, can play T or G (2 needs in one pick) round: mid to late first
Andre smith, can play T or G (2) first
Eben Britton, can play T (1) late first
Alex mack, can play C or G (2) late first mid 2nd
Eric wood can play C or G (2) 2nd
Max unger can play C, G, or T (3) 2nd
Will Beaty can play T (1) late 1st- 2nd
Jamon meredith can play T or G (2) 2nd-3rd
Phil loadholt T only 2nd-3rd
Duke Robinson G maybe T (1.5) 2nd
Johnathan luigis C maybe G (1.5) 3rd to 4th
Antoine caldwell C, G (2) 3rd to 5th


I figure we trade down, and trade betts and Jansen, get a 20's range pick and an early second rounder for Oher and alex mack, and with the 3rd rounder we get an OLB or DE

If we trade Betts we need a RB. Who would trade for Jansen? Unless we stand pat, we are not taking a cap hit on him.

Oher isn't making it to the 20s. Mack should be there but you never know. I think any good lineman could be picked higher than the "projections".

we wouldn't get much for betts and or jansen. certainly not a second round pick.

Here's how I look at it;
We need in order from most needed to least needed, on the Oline:
A tackle, then a guard, then a center now by the time we pick these guys and these values they have should be available:
Michael Oher, can play T or G (2 needs in one pick) round: mid to late first
Andre smith, can play T or G (2) first
Eben Britton, can play T (1) late first
Alex mack, can play C or G (2) late first mid 2nd
Eric wood can play C or G (2) 2nd
Max unger can play C, G, or T (3) 2nd
Will Beaty can play T (1) late 1st- 2nd
Jamon meredith can play T or G (2) 2nd-3rd
Phil loadholt T only 2nd-3rd
Duke Robinson G maybe T (1.5) 2nd
Johnathan luigis C maybe G (1.5) 3rd to 4th
Antoine caldwell C, G (2) 3rd to 5th


I figure we trade down, and trade betts and Jansen, get a 20's range pick and an early second rounder for Oher and alex mack, and with the 3rd rounder we get an OLB or DE

Look closer at the cap spreadsheet... trading/cutting Jansen now will cost almost $3 mill whereas keeping him as a backup this year, preferably at G/C, and cutting him next year will save over $2 mill. He's not going anywhere. Similar sitz w/ Betts but only about a $1 mill loss vs gain in '10. If we get another pick this year it probably comes from the tenders we placed on Golston and Monty, which is the smartest way to go.

... btw I'm starting to think all top four OTs will be gone by 13. A. Smith is probably gonna rise in value again, but also consider there are teams, KC as an example, that won't need the services of a rookie QB as we move closer to the draft. Basically I expect the QBs to fall in the draft order and the safer picks, OL and DL, to rise. I think the scenario then is we'll still have a shot at Rey Maualuga, unless Denver grabs him, but he is probably the last player available worth the 13th overall. And for those who automatically think "trade-down" keep in mind few teams will want to trade down if none of these guys are available.

Look closer at the cap spreadsheet... trading/cutting Jansen now will cost almost $3 mill whereas keeping him as a backup this year, preferably at G/C, and cutting him next year will save over $2 mill. He's not going anywhere. Similar sitz w/ Betts but only about a $1 mill loss vs gain in '10. If we get another pick this year it probably comes from the tenders we placed on Golston and Monty, which is the smartest way to go.

... btw I'm starting to think all top four OTs will be gone by 13. A. Smith is probably gonna rise in value again, but also consider there are teams, KC as an example, that won't need the services of a rookie QB as we move closer to the draft. Basically I expect the QBs to fall in the draft order and the safer picks, OL and DL, to rise. I think the scenario then is we'll still have a shot at Rey Maualuga, unless Denver grabs him, but he is probably the last player available worth the 13th overall. And for those who automatically think "trade-down" keep in mind few teams will want to trade down if none of these guys are available.

So who do you think we'll get?

So who do you think we'll get?

Well GTripp thinks we're getting Suggs in a trade that will cost us 1st round picks in '09 and '10. (I guess using him as a LDE).

I wanted Suggs bad for SLB... not really sure how great he'd be at LDE.

I don't know what the hell we're doing... i probably need to eat some ice cream and go to bed.

Where u been btw... haven't seen any elderly abuse recently.