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44ever 03-03-2009, 07:07 PM they've called off the search at 6:30 PM tonight (Tuesday the 3rd.) I am to assume they are to declare them dead. It was been a couple days and they have not been found. Such a sad sad story.
I'm curious as to what they were doing so far out in the ocean! It said they were around 30 miles off the coast when they were capsized. I really hope by some miracle they get found, it's so sad.
What does'nt make sence to me is how they got seperated. One guy was able to climb on hull and stay there. I would assume that the others were unconcious but the story says they were all able to swim under the boat to get life preservers. so why would they not all climb on the hull or at least tie off to each other or the boat. Usually the docking ropes are always connected to the cleats. Doesnt make sence. Im assuming this was a 21' carolina skiff, but I havnt heard of the make of the boat other than it was a everglades boat. which means it has a flat bottom and foam filled. If that is the case there is plenty of room for the guys to all fit on the hull. But its also crazy to take a skiff or a simular type of boat out past 10 miles. So my guess on the type of boat may be way off
CRedskinsRule 03-03-2009, 07:12 PM Given they were in their physical prime, I could see if the mentality became "F--- this." and instead of sitting and waiting, they believed they could swim for it and make it. I could not imagine thinking that, but these guys train their bodies to the max, and maybe sitting waiting for someone to come rescue them really drove them bonkers.
skinsfan_nn 03-03-2009, 07:16 PM What does'nt make sence to me is how they got seperated. One guy was able to climb on hull and stay there. I would assume that the others were unconcious but the story says they were all able to swim under the boat to get life preservers. so why would they not all climb on the hull or at least tie off to each other or the boat. Usually the docking ropes are always connected to the cleats. Doesnt make sence. Im assuming this was a 21' carolina skiff, but I havnt heard of the make of the boat other than it was a everglades boat. which means it has a flat bottom and foam filled. If that is the case there is plenty of room for the guys to all fit on the hull. But its also crazy to take a skiff or a simular type of boat out past 10 miles. So my guess on the type of boat may be way off
No it wasn't a Carolina skiff. It was a 21' Everglades CC, V-birth. Read the article.
Coast Guard finds one man clinging to boat - St. Petersburg Times (http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/article980435.ece)
44ever 03-03-2009, 07:31 PM No it wasn't a Carolina skiff. It was a 21' Everglades CC, V-birth. Read the article.
Coast Guard finds one man clinging to boat - St. Petersburg Times (http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/article980435.ece)
My bad. I was going off a earlier article which didnt disclose the type of boat. Thanks for the link.
With that said, I would still like to know how they got seperated. One guy was able to climb on hull and stay there. I would assume that the others were unconcious but an earlier article stated they were all able to swim under the boat to get life preservers. so why would they not all climb on the hull or at least tie off to each other or the boat. Usually the docking ropes are always connected to the cleats. I still hope they are somehow alive and found. Very sad.
Bubba305-ST21- 03-03-2009, 07:36 PM my prayers go out to the family and friends of these players. This could have happend to anyone, it really is ashame.
skinsfan_nn 03-03-2009, 07:56 PM My bad. I was going off a earlier article which didnt disclose the type of boat. Thanks for the link.
With that said, I would still like to know how they got seperated. One guy was able to climb on hull and stay there. I would assume that the others were unconcious but an earlier article stated they were all able to swim under the boat to get life preservers. so why would they not all climb on the hull or at least tie off to each other or the boat. Usually the docking ropes are always connected to the cleats. I still hope they are somehow alive and found. Very sad.
No problem. And yes very sad story to say the least. Per Schuyler the lone survivor, here is his account of the tragedy.
According to Schuyler, the man found clinging to the fishing boat on Monday (http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/03/02/nick-schuyler-reportedly-found-clinging-to-lost-fishing-boat/), Cooper (http://nfl.fanhouse.com/tag/Marquis+Cooper/) and Smith (http://nfl.fanhouse.com/tag/Corey+Smith/), gave up hope (http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/article980720.ece).
"We were told that Nick said the two NFL players took their life jackets off and drifted out to sea," said Bob Bleakley, whose son Will, 25, is also still missing.Nick said that two to four hours after the boat tipped over in rough waters, one of the two NFL players decided he'd had enough. A few hours later, the second one did the same thing. If that isn't enough, Schuyler said that Will Bleakley (http://nfl.fanhouse.com/tag/Will+Bleakley/), who stayed hanging on the capsized boat with Nick, told him he saw a light in the distance and decided to try and swim for it.
"I think he was delusional to think he could swim someplace," Will's father said.
While this is the first thing Nick has been quoted as saying happened, one family member of the missing players isn't exactly sure how "together" he must be after such a traumatic experience.
Ray Sanchez, Cooper's cousin, said the Coast Guard told him the same thing, but cautioned against taking Schuyler's story as gospel at this point.
"We're not 100 percent sure where his head was at," Sanchez said. "He'd been through a lot."
The search ends at 6:30 PM ET on Tuesday.
44ever 03-03-2009, 08:08 PM No problem. And yes very sad story to say the least. Per Schuyler the lone survivor, here is his account of the tragedy.
According to Schuyler, the man found clinging to the fishing boat on Monday (http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/03/02/nick-schuyler-reportedly-found-clinging-to-lost-fishing-boat/), Cooper (http://nfl.fanhouse.com/tag/Marquis+Cooper/) and Smith (http://nfl.fanhouse.com/tag/Corey+Smith/), gave up hope (http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/article980720.ece).
"We were told that Nick said the two NFL players took their life jackets off and drifted out to sea," said Bob Bleakley, whose son Will, 25, is also still missing.Nick said that two to four hours after the boat tipped over in rough waters, one of the two NFL players decided he'd had enough. A few hours later, the second one did the same thing. If that isn't enough, Schuyler said that Will Bleakley (http://nfl.fanhouse.com/tag/Will+Bleakley/), who stayed hanging on the capsized boat with Nick, told him he saw a light in the distance and decided to try and swim for it.
"I think he was delusional to think he could swim someplace," Will's father said.
While this is the first thing Nick has been quoted as saying happened, one family member of the missing players isn't exactly sure how "together" he must be after such a traumatic experience.
Ray Sanchez, Cooper's cousin, said the Coast Guard told him the same thing, but cautioned against taking Schuyler's story as gospel at this point.
"We're not 100 percent sure where his head was at," Sanchez said. "He'd been through a lot."
The search ends at 6:30 PM ET on Tuesday.
I guess Im just not buying the story Skinsfan_nn. It may be true. But seems unlikely. IMO
firstdown 03-03-2009, 08:21 PM My bad. I was going off a earlier article which didnt disclose the type of boat. Thanks for the link.
With that said, I would still like to know how they got seperated. One guy was able to climb on hull and stay there. I would assume that the others were unconcious but an earlier article stated they were all able to swim under the boat to get life preservers. so why would they not all climb on the hull or at least tie off to each other or the boat. Usually the docking ropes are always connected to the cleats. I still hope they are somehow alive and found. Very sad.
Well from a boating site that I check out some have people in that live in that area said the seas kicked up pretty strong at times. I believe the first night they went missing the seas hit 12 to 15 feet and that could have been what causeed them to be seperated from the boat. It could have been that the boat was getting tossed around so much from the seas they thought it caused more of a danger then it provided help. The said part is that for about $700 to $1200 the boat owner could have purchased an epirb which would have giving out a major distress signal and their location. Most of the time when one goes off its just a matter of either a ship, boat or the time for the cost guard to get the choppers in the air and heading their way. I also think if they just had the cheap lifejackets they would be tough to use for men of their size and their size probably worked against them.If you have ever seen the Most Deadlest Catch when a boat sinks you hear them talking about searching in the area where the epirb signal is picked up.
Nflnick11 03-03-2009, 10:13 PM Sad story ...RIP guys...
KLHJ2 03-03-2009, 10:22 PM You know, deep in my heart I wanted to believe that the other guys would make it out as well (pro football players or not). The reality is, that even if they had survived this long they would have died of starvation, hypothermia, or dehydration by now. Realistically they put up a big fight, but I rather that they died quickly instead. My thoughts go out to their families.
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