I like our moves this year if the plan for the FO is to gather as much top talent they can this year in preparation for uncapped seasons following the '09 season. I'd really like that because that would mean that our FO actually has foresight.
But if that is the case this coming year is considered a gathering year and the following year is going to be slated as our competitive season. Once the cap goes away I think all this years spending is going to pay off. But if there is a cap then we are royally screwed this and next year....the Skins love their gamble.
How so exactly?
Do you really think the Skins are betting all their chips on no cap and have no backup plan in place?
drew54
03-01-2009, 12:48 PM
I would say the draft shall answer the need of tackle, and if there is a trade down, then it could answer both tackle and OLB on Day one.
At this point the front offense is probably zeroing in on finding that trade down scenerio, and is willing to trade all four picks to get into the 20's and early second round.
MiraclesHappen07
03-01-2009, 12:50 PM
Why are we saying we cant get a quality starter at 13 for Rt or Slb? I mean if we learned anything from the draft over the years, is you can find plenty of quaity starting caliber players in later rounds of the draft, providing that we have the right draft analyz, e.t.c, e.t.c
Skinny Tee
03-01-2009, 12:59 PM
It's a little to soon for me to start getting worried. We have'nt addressed all our needs but free agency isn't over and the draft has'nt started yet. We signed Hall when alot of us thought it was too late. Who would have figured we'd get Dockery? That means we just got younger with a starter at LG. Our d-line sucks! Sound familiar? I'm pretty sure AH improves our d-line. We've improved our team and have'nt even drafted yet. It is VERY possible to get a starting RT AND talented young OLB in the draft. Assuming we're done in free agency. The draft has'nt started yet and we've already improved our team. Maybe not the way we all would have liked, but I don't think there is any doubt we've improved. With only 4 picks in the draft we've already improved more than I expected, that's why I'm excited. To think we could address every need with our cap situation and only 4 picks would have been unreasonable but...... somehow we may still do it. Whether we trade down or not, we're still going to get some help in the draft.
I'm not trying to be annoying but AH did improve our line but we also lost Evans. Taylor and Carter aren't known for their run stopping. IMO we need another quality DE to be competitively imposing on the line.
Also Dockery is filling Kendall's spot so we haven't added anything there and offense was our weakness last year.
We're only going to yield one possible starter with our draft picks. Even if our 3rd rounder starts somewhere this year will that necessarily be a good thing? Reinhardt couldn't even touch the field last year when we had extreme need for a warm body on the line.
Our team has changed but I don't think it's improved yet. We'll probably have to wait for next offseason to see that.
SFREDSKIN
03-01-2009, 01:04 PM
I'm not trying to be annoying but AH did improve our line but we also lost Evans. Taylor and Carter aren't known for their run stopping. IMO we need another quality DE to be competitively imposing on the line.
Our draft should like this:
Trade down and select Mack
next pick DE or LB
T
DE or LB again
RB
Skinny Tee
03-01-2009, 01:12 PM
How so exactly?
Do you really think the Skins are betting all their chips on no cap and have no backup plan in place?
Do you really put it past them to execute an overly aggressive move with no Plan B?
If worse comes to worse they will dismantle our core (Portis, Moss) and we'll still have guys we can build on like AH and Landry.
I do think that if Dan Snyder is the wheeling dealing, dinner eating business man that can secure the NFL's largest guaranteed contract ever for the top 2009 free agent in 5 hours, then he certainly has owner insight into the NFL's cap implications beyond this year.
Son Of Man
03-01-2009, 01:14 PM
There were no marquee/young LB's or OT;s available that would have justified the money it would have cost to sign them (and I don't wanna hear about Boley, he's underwhelming). The FO just gave us arguably the most dominate DL force in the NFL today which should improve everyone's play on the Defense by destroying opposing offenses lines and occupying blockers allonging our LB's to make plays. JT will alternate between DE and LB meaning or LB rotation should be; Fletcher (MLB) with Blades at MLB/SLB, McIntosh at WLB/SLB, JT at WLB, Fincher and Campbell rotating. With the acquistion of a LB through the draft (Maualuaga for instance) we will look golden.
As far as the O line, we just got 8 years younger at LG. We have Rhinehart, for depth, with a year under his belt (we'll see what he brings) and returning veterans at all the other positions. Heyer and Jansen will compete for the RT position and the FO will look to see if there is a worthwhile sucessor to Samuels to pick up in the draft. The only sure bet LT prospects will be long gone (J. Smith and E. Monroe) by the 13th pick. I have serious reservations, as do the majority of analysts I've heard, about Oher and A. Smith so the FO may be unwilling to invest alot of money in them when there will be sure fire prospects at other positions. Trading back is always an option but requires a willing partner, so let's not bet on that. If we stay at 13 we can take the teams highest rated LB out of USC and draft OL in the 3rd round.
We weren't going to fix all of our problems in one offseason. That being said, we definately secured a core from which to continue building on defense. Our offensive acquisitions from last offseason only need to make good on their promise, JC needs to keep growing, and I see alot of good things for our beloved team next year.
PS- I love Maualuaga!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BigHairedAristocrat
03-01-2009, 01:18 PM
I think we can bring washington back at close to the vet minimum and the stay put at 13 and draft the best OT available. in the 3rd round we can probably pick up a starting quality LB since this draft is ridiculously deep at LB. id then use our 5th and 6th round picks on a running back and offensive lineman.
44ever
03-01-2009, 01:26 PM
I think we can bring washington back at close to the vet minimum and the stay put at 13 and draft the best OT available. in the 3rd round we can probably pick up a starting quality LB since this draft is ridiculously deep at LB. id then use our 5th and 6th round picks on a running back and offensive lineman.
BHA, I'm with you about staying put at 13 for OT. And i'm glad some of us are not blind to the need of a RB (in the draft)
53Fan
03-01-2009, 01:52 PM
I'm not trying to be annoying but AH did improve our line but we also lost Evans. Taylor and Carter aren't known for their run stopping. IMO we need another quality DE to be competitively imposing on the line.
Also Dockery is filling Kendall's spot so we haven't added anything there and offense was our weakness last year.
We're only going to yield one possible starter with our draft picks. Even if our 3rd rounder starts somewhere this year will that necessarily be a good thing? Reinhardt couldn't even touch the field last year when we had extreme need for a warm body on the line.
Our team has changed but I don't think it's improved yet. We'll probably have to wait for next offseason to see that.
Even if we lost Evans, which I'm not sure we have yet, I would say AH is an improvement over Evans. I would say gaining about 8 years youth at LG is an improvement. If our 3rd rounder is good enough to start, how would that not be an improvement? I disagree Tee. I think we've improved.