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GTripp0012 02-26-2009, 04:09 PM This is a great point. You beat me to the punch. I wouldn't sign him for longer than 3 years.Well, from a cap standpoint, it's going to be at least 5, as to prorate the signing bonus.
I'd do something like 5/25 for Dockery, max, with no more that 12 million guaranteed.
Wasn't his deal with Buffalo 7/49 with 23 guaranteed?
GMScud 02-26-2009, 04:13 PM Well, from a cap standpoint, it's going to be at least 5, as to prorate the signing bonus.
I'd do something like 5/25 for Dockery, max, with no more that 12 million guaranteed.
Wasn't his deal with Buffalo 7/49 with 23 guaranteed?
I didn't think of the prorated bonus. I suppose all this stuff is rendered moot if we go into next year with no CBA.
I'm not sure about his guaranteed money in Buffalo, but it was 7/$49M.
Dirtbag59 02-26-2009, 04:24 PM Posted at 1:02 PM ET, 02/26/2009
Skins Expected to Go After Dockery
Jason Reid and Jason La Canfora report:
The Redskins have expressed interest in former Skins guard Derrick Dockery, who was released today by the Buffalo Bills, and, according to league sources, are expected to pursue him this weekend
dmek25 02-26-2009, 04:30 PM Hey just got cut by the team that gave him a huge contract. That affect his ability to ask for more money. The advantage we have is that he's been here before and did well while playing for Buges.
this happens all the time. just look at Hall, and what he is asking for. its all about the market
Ruhskins 02-26-2009, 04:36 PM this happens all the time. just look at Hall, and what he is asking for. its all about the market
Hall came here and played lights out for our team, this included a couple of nationally televised games where he received lots of praises. Dockery played in a poor offensive line all of last year and the Bills had to cut him after giving him a huge contract two years ago. I don't think you can compare the two.
GTripp0012 02-26-2009, 04:40 PM Hall came here and played lights out for our team, this included a couple of nationally televised games where he received lots of praises. Dockery played in a poor offensive line all of last year and the Bills had to cut him after giving him a huge contract two years ago. I don't think you can compare the two.Uhhhh....
[Hall] played [on] a poor [team] last year and the [Raiders] had to cut him after giving him a huge contract [less than a] year ago. I [absolutely] think you can compare the two.
BigHairedAristocrat 02-26-2009, 04:43 PM Like when they lined him up against Terrell Suggs? LOL.
I dont know what this dudes thinking... we put our backup center at Left Tackle against a pro-bowler with no TE help... its amazing Jason Campbell is still alive.
Hamoskinz 02-26-2009, 04:45 PM Be nice to have him back cheap. He is closing in on 30 but he could play for 3 years at least, enough time to draft their replacements. If we do sign him, does that mean we shy away from possibility of getting Duke Robinson or Alex Mack in the draft and focus specifically on the Tackles? :(
Ruhskins 02-26-2009, 04:51 PM Uhhhh....
Dockery did not get the chance to play for another team last year where he played well. If Hall had stayed with the Raiders and play poorly the entire year, then YES, these two situations would be the same. Hall can try to negotiate for more money due to his performance in the second half of last season here in Washington. Dockery on the other hand played poorly the entire season, so no, he shouldn't be able to negotiate for more money.
GTripp0012 02-26-2009, 05:10 PM Dockery did not get the chance to play for another team last year where he played well. If Hall had stayed with the Raiders and play poorly the entire year, then YES, these two situations would be the same. Hall can try to negotiate for more money due to his performance in the second half of last season here in Washington. Dockery on the other hand played poorly the entire season, so no, he shouldn't be able to negotiate for more money.I wouldn't say that Dockery played poorly the whole season. I wouldn't say that at all.
I would say that the Bills were expecting something totally different when they gave him a truckload of money back in 07. They wanted a lynchpin for the entire line for the next 5 years or so that would ensure they could put the ball on the ground behind the left side and be very successful when they needed to be.
What they got was Derrick Dockery. Quite predictable to Redskins fans, obviously, but that was the defining move of Marv Levy's Front Office career, and it was certainly a head scratcher.
This is NOT unlike Hall and Oakland. Oakland wanted to have an elite cornerback tandem with Asomugha and they pegged Hall as the guy who could get them to the next level.
What they got was DeAngelo Hall. Again, predictable.
Now, Hall was much better for us, as you would imagine, but he's still the same player he was in Oakland and Atlanta. There's no doubt the atmousphere is more conducive to success here than in Oakland, but that goes for everyone we sign, not just Hall.
Anyway, I think these situations are pretty comparable from a money standpoint.
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