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That Guy
02-27-2009, 07:24 AM
Is Dock one of those pickups that looks good now but turns out bad? Why did the Bill give up on him? Is thier someone else better in the draft or FA? Were taking a big chance on Hall so I like the next few pick up to be more of a sure things!

they paid a 3mill/year OG 7mill/year. that's pretty much all there is to it. they expected a top tier OL addition by taking our (at the time) 4th best lineman and vastly overpaying him, and then magically were surprised when they found out he played there the same way he played here.

I guess the forgot that the rest of that line wasn't coming with him.

MTK
02-27-2009, 09:15 AM
Is Dock one of those pickups that looks good now but turns out bad? Why did the Bill give up on him? Is thier someone else better in the draft or FA? Were taking a big chance on Hall so I like the next few pick up to be more of a sure things!

I don't think it was performance related at all. He's still a very solid player the Bills are just realizing they need to seriously tighten their belts.

Monkeydad
02-27-2009, 10:12 AM
I don't think it was performance related at all. He's still a very solid player the Bills are just realizing they need to seriously tighten their belts.

Yes, they overpaid for him and now realize it. I'm sure they were satisfied with his performance, but the deal was just TOO BIG for a lineman in the first place. They got their man, then realized it was a bad financial position...sort of like some guy that walks into an auto auction and immediately says "$50,000!" for a car currently bidding at $20,000...of course everyone else is going to just let him have it for that price.

BigHairedAristocrat
02-27-2009, 12:05 PM
I thought about starting another thread for this post, but now that we have Haynesworth, our top 4 DTs are now: Haynesworth, Griffin, Montgommery and Golston. Alexander is now our #5DT. We dont need that many DTs so Alexander is the odd man out.

Why the heck would we pursue Dockery when we could just move Alexander back to guard? I think it would be much wiser to pursue a FA Strong Side LB or DE (whichever position Jason Taylor will not be playing).

That way, we could go into the draft with the only starter needed at RT.

Paintrain
02-27-2009, 12:08 PM
I thought about starting another thread for this post, but now that we have Haynesworth, our top 4 DTs are now: Haynesworth, Griffin, Montgommery and Golston. Alexander is now our #5DT. We dont need that many DTs so Alexander is the odd man out.

Why the heck would we pursue Dockery when we could just move Alexander back to guard? I think it would be much wiser to pursue a FA RT. That way, we could go into the draft with no GLARING needs.
It's not that easy. Remember, Alexander was an undrafted free agent who played his way onto the team for being able to do a little bit of everything. Ever hear the phrase Jack of all trades, master of none? That's LoAx. If anything, the fact they are going after Dock it's an indictment on Chad Reinhart that he's not ready to step up into the starting lineup despite being a 3rd round pick last year.

Ruhskins
02-27-2009, 12:08 PM
I thought about starting another thread for this post, but now that we have Haynesworth, our top 4 DTs are now: Haynesworth, Griffin, Montgommery and Golston. Alexander is now our #5DT. We dont need that many DTs so Alexander is the odd man out.

Why the heck would we pursue Dockery when we could just move Alexander back to guard? I think it would be much wiser to pursue a FA RT. That way, we could go into the draft with no GLARING needs.

Good point about Alexander, BHA. I still think that we could get Dockery and he could even start with us. Randy Thomas is a bit of question mark for me, because of his back surgery. I think we should look for a RT at the draft.

SmootSmack
02-27-2009, 12:09 PM
It's not that easy. Remember, Alexander was an undrafted free agent who played his way onto the team for being able to do a little bit of everything. Ever hear the phrase Jack of all trades, master of none? That's LoAx. If anything, the fact they are going after Dock it's an indictment on Chad Reinhart that he's not ready to step up into the starting lineup despite being a 3rd round pick last year.

Good post.

On another note, looks like we made an offer to Campbell....Khary Campbell (he's a solid special teamer)

Monkeydad
02-27-2009, 12:10 PM
It's not that easy. Remember, Alexander was an undrafted free agent who played his way onto the team for being able to do a little bit of everything. Ever hear the phrase Jack of all trades, master of none? That's LoAx. If anything, the fact they are going after Dock it's an indictment on Chad Reinhart that he's not ready to step up into the starting lineup despite being a 3rd round pick last year.

Yeah, Alexander if like a good utility infielder in baseball. He'll be great to have as a backup on either the O- or D-lines in case if injuries during games. I'm not sure I'd trust him as a starter, at least yet. He does have potential, but that's beyond this season. He's not quite ready yet.

Gmanc711
02-27-2009, 12:14 PM
Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat
"I thought about starting another thread for this post, but now that we have Haynesworth, our top 4 DTs are now: Haynesworth, Griffin, Montgommery and Golston. Alexander is now our #5DT. We dont need that many DTs so Alexander is the odd man out.

Why the heck would we pursue Dockery when we could just move Alexander back to guard? I think it would be much wiser to pursue a FA RT. That way, we could go into the draft with no GLARING needs. "


... Am I the only one immature enough to not realize he meant Free Agent Right Tackle and thought he wanted us to persue a Fart?

BigHairedAristocrat
02-27-2009, 12:16 PM
It's not that easy. Remember, Alexander was an undrafted free agent who played his way onto the team for being able to do a little bit of everything. Ever hear the phrase Jack of all trades, master of none? That's LoAx. If anything, the fact they are going after Dock it's an indictment on Chad Reinhart that he's not ready to step up into the starting lineup despite being a 3rd round pick last year.

Good point. I always thought he was a better fit on offense though. He just didnt seem to have the mean streak you really want in a DT. perhaps he can push Rinehart for a backup position. Assuming we started Thomas and Dockery, and Jansen moves to a backup T/G role, then we dont have room for Rinehart and Alexander on the roster as backup guards (and i think its a forgone conclusion we dont have room for Alexander soley as a backup DT). Rinehart is eligible for the PS, so im predicting he'll land there when the regular season starts, with Alexander as our 4th guard/5th DT.

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