Taylor to Return w/o Restructure or Paycut

With releasing Marcus we're still at 4 million over the cap. I don't know how much we'll save by cutting Springs but is that necessarily a good thing? If Springs is cut and we aren't able to sign Hall we'll just have Rogers as CB.

Also if we sign Hall how much space would we really have available after that?

Releasing Springs may sound like a solution to the cap space but I'm not sure I'm all gung ho for it.

Brother, we better get Hall. I wish we would have got that deal done before the 27th and been done with it, we would have a clearer picture of our cap and what we should do with Springs.

I'm still waiting to get SmootSmacks input on this situation to get his POV of how and who plays what positions if we indeed put JT in RDE. and everyone else stays.

If we dont sign Hall well theres some extra $ and in that case we better hope Rogers learned how to catch a ball and has no hard feelings. And we did'nt cut Springs. Maybe Smoot makes a comeback:)

As far as cap goes, I think we will have a little room but not much. I'll leave that to Schneed10

Hall is complicating things a bit. Its possible we may get burnt in the end. Hope not.

No it doesn't. Once his contract voids we'll save another $2.3 million or so, taking us from $3.3 million in space to $5.6 million in space.

Of course it's quite possible we turn right around and sign him again, but for less.

If we cut Springs I believe we save $6M, which would put us at $9.3M under. Letting Daniels walk would save us $2.3 pushing it to $11.6 under. Say we re-sign Daniels for a vet minimum style contract, and give Evans a raise to where his '09 number is like $1.5-ish; then we would still be close to $9M under. I would think that would leave us room for D.Hall and a free agent or two plus draft picks.

I'm not a salary cap guru AT ALL, so maybe someone could chime in on this...

Here's the key phrase in the article: "We're not doing anything with Jason," Washington vice president of football operations Vinny Cerrato said. "He's going to be with us and that's it. That's the plan."

That's the plan, gives VC an out with regards to any changes with JT. Keep in mind this is the same VC who told the media flat out that the Skins were not speaking to Miami regarding JT. It's just posturing at this point. Right now we have to assume that we get no help at OLB or at DE from FA or the draft. If that's the case then JT will have to fill a role for us at either postion. I don't believe Carter will be moved from RDE, JT will either play LDE on passing downs with Evans in on run plays. Or Blache may attempt to see if JT can be used at OLB.

If we get some help at LB or DE in FA or the draft then all bets are off and if we're in a position where we need JT's 8M in cap space, he'll be gone.

If we cut Springs I believe we save $6M, which would put us at $9.3M under. Letting Daniels walk would save us $2.3 pushing it to $11.6 under. Say we re-sign Daniels for a vet minimum style contract, and give Evans a raise to where his '09 number is like $1.5-ish; then we would still be close to $9M under. I would think that would leave us room for D.Hall and a free agent or two plus draft picks.

I'm not a salary cap guru AT ALL, so maybe someone could chime in on this...

Does all this assume the full salary to JT? I mean are we currently 3.6 million under even w/ the 8.5 million on the books?

Schneed?

Does all this assume the full salary to JT? I mean are we currently 3.6 million under even w/ the 8.5 million on the books?

Schneed?

Yeah, he's under a contract we assumed when we traded for him. That contract runs through the '09 season. So the numbers being discussed are with his salary on the books.

Yeah, he's under a contract we assumed when we traded for him. That contract runs through the '09 season. So the numbers being discussed are with his salary on the books.

Thanks for the clarification man, much appreciated. I thought the numbers here were coming from Schneed's salary cap thread which (i thought) assumed Taylor would basically take the 8.5 over two years essentially halving his salary this season... therefor if he took the entire chunk this year we'd be just over the salary cap at this point. My bad...

Yeah, he's under a contract we assumed when we traded for him. That contract runs through the '09 season. So the numbers being discussed are with his salary on the books.

Oh. I didn't know that. Thanks

Thanks for the clarification man, much appreciated. I thought the numbers here were coming from Schneed's salary cap thread which (i thought) assumed Taylor would basically take the 8.5 over two years essentially halving his salary this season... therefor if he took the entire chunk this year we'd be just over the salary cap at this point. My bad...

This spreadsheet is under "Salary Cap Info" on the second drop down box from the left at the top of the screen:

http://www.thewarpath.net/WarpathRedskinsCap.htm

Note the tabs at the bottom of the screen for all kinds of info.

Alright, here's another source of this story. I was beginning to wonder if this was just speculation.

Jason Taylor's Agent Says Defensive End Will Return to Washington Redskins for 2009 Season - washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/22/AR2009022202176.html)

My question for the salary cap gurus, if we had restructured Jason Taylor's contract, what would that have meant? Would that have meant extended his contract so we owe money to Taylor beyond the 2009 season? If so, then wouldn't we just want to be over and done with at the end of 2009? I mean, we're in this cap hell b/c we keep restructuring the contracts of aging players, so as much as bringing JT back for his full salary pisses you off, just be glad that this won't affect our salary cap beyond 2009 (yeah I know there's the whole issue with the CBA and stuff, but that hasn't been figured out).

Finally, JT said he would play two years and he's honoring that promise. Good for him, in a time when we see players not honoring their contracts (CJ, Boldin, etc., etc.) Taylor has decided to honor his. I think (and hope) that he sees this year as his redemption year. He'll be healthy, he's not dancing with the stars, and hopefully Blache will use him better.

Alright, here's another source of this story. I was beginning to wonder if this was just speculation.

Jason Taylor's Agent Says Defensive End Will Return to Washington Redskins for 2009 Season - washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/22/AR2009022202176.html)

My question for the salary cap gurus, if we had restructured Jason Taylor's contract, what would that have meant? Would that have meant extended his contract so we owe money to Taylor beyond the 2009 season? If so, then wouldn't we just want to be over and done with at the end of 2009? I mean, we're in this cap hell b/c we keep restructuring the contracts of aging players, so as much as bringing JT back for his full salary pisses you off, just be glad that this won't affect our salary cap beyond 2009 (yeah I know there's the whole issue with the CBA and stuff, but that hasn't been figured out).

Finally, JT said he would play two years and he's honoring that promise. Good for him, in a time when we see players not honoring their contracts (CJ, Boldin, etc., etc.) Taylor has decided to honor his. I think (and hope) that he sees this year as his redemption year. He'll be healthy, he's not dancing with the stars, and hopefully Blache will use him better.

According to the article JT didn't fit Blaches scheme last year which is stop the run first and they're looking at ways to free him up this year. I certainly hope they do, or why would you sign a pass rushing DE for 8.5 mil to play in a defense geared to stop the run which is something he's not that good at?