Taylor to Return w/o Restructure or Paycut

:) So we should just sit back and let the "D" ride then? Ok.

Nah, I just think that it is silly of us to have all of these arguments over the defense, when it was the offense that screwed up.

Nah, I just think that it is silly of us to have all of these arguments over the defense, when it was the offense that screwed up.

I agree with you 100% there Ruhskins. :)

I haven't heard anything about him not being here in the offseason? Have you? Also, none of our players could get to the passer all season.

Do you honestly think that JT is going to be in Ashburn working out with the rest of the guys? He didn't even work out when the new staff came in at Miami and that's the main reason he got traded.

True none of the other guys got to the passer but none of them make 8 mil.

Do you honestly think that JT is going to be in Ashburn working out with the rest of the guys? He didn't even work out when the new staff came in at Miami and that's the main reason he got traded.

True none of the other guys got to the passer but none of them make 8 mil.

Of course he will. He never had a history of missing OTA's before last year. He was embroiled in a public spat with Parcells and the Dolphins organization and was involved with Dancing With the Stars.

Seriously, Taylor's commitment should be the least of our concerns. He's here for a year, he's got his money, he's out to prove his worth and ability. He has never been a money guy (like Haynesworth may be) or a 'me' guy just interested in himself. He's a pride guy and I think last year will motivate him even more to prove it was a fluke and he's not done.

Regardless, I would still give the worst move to the Bungals for franchising their kicker. There are probably others too that one is just off the top of my head.

Who else could they franchise? That tells you how sad they are in the talent department.

Separetely, I think the Pats made the smartest move with the tag.

We signed him to a 2 year deal. Let's see what he's got going for number 2. He didn't have an incredible year last year by any stretch of the imagination. Do you cut your losses and use that money this year, or do you give him this last chance to earn that money?

We signed him to a 2 year deal. Let's see what he's got going for number 2. He didn't have an incredible year last year by any stretch of the imagination. Do you cut your losses and use that money this year, or do you give him this last chance to earn that money?

Let's not lose sight of why we gave JT 8.5m. He was not brought here to prove he's worth the 8m. Neither does he need to earn it. We paid him 8.5 Because he's JT. And a healthy JT is a dominate Football player. He has nothing to prove. Let's just hope he stays healthy so he can play JT football. Let's also hope FO plays him RDE. So he can do his thing.

With that said I do think he will have a BIG season.

Let's not lose sight of why we gave JT 8.5m. He was not brought here to prove he's worth the 8m. Neither does he need to earn it. We paid him 8.5 Because he's JT. And a healthy JT is a dominate Football player. He has nothing to prove. Let's just hope he stays healthy so he can play JT football. Let's also hope FO plays him RDE. So he can do his thing.

With that said I do think he will have a BIG season.

your first and last paragraphs seem contradictory to me. If he's not going to have a BIG season, we should not pay him 8.5M. We didnt bring him here last year because he's JT - we brought him here because Daniels got hurt and we didnt trust our other DEs. If we keep Taylor this year, its probably to play OLB. He wont be a good DE in a 4-3 system unless we had someone like Haynesworth at DT.

Originally Posted by 44ever
Let's not lose sight of why we gave JT 8.5m. He was not brought here to prove he's worth the 8m. Neither does he need to earn it. We paid him 8.5 Because he's JT. And a healthy JT is a dominate Football player. He has nothing to prove. Let's just hope he stays healthy so he can play JT football. Let's also hope FO plays him RDE. So he can do his thing.

With that said I do think he will have a BIG season.

your first and last paragraphs seem contradictory to me. If he's not going to have a BIG season, we should not pay him 8.5M. We didnt bring him here last year because he's JT - we brought him here because Daniels got hurt and we didnt trust our other DEs. If we keep Taylor this year, its probably to play OLB. He wont be a good DE in a 4-3 system unless we had someone like Haynesworth at DT.

your first and last paragraphs seem contradictory to me
I dont see the contradiction, I never said he would'nt have a big season.

If he's not going to have a BIG season, we should not pay him 8.5M.
Should'nt that be the case for every player in the league. There are no guarantees, you know that.

We didnt bring him here last year because he's JT - we brought him here because Daniels got hurt and we didnt trust our other DEs
Are you saying Daniels was worth bringing in a guy at 8.5m plus giving up draft picks for? We brought in JT because he's JT. There where better ways of filling the Daniels gap.

He wont be a good DE in a 4-3 system
He played most of his career in a 4-3

BHA, I think you misunderstood my post:smashfrea

Of course he will. He never had a history of missing OTA's before last year. He was embroiled in a public spat with Parcells and the Dolphins organization and was involved with Dancing With the Stars.

Seriously, Taylor's commitment should be the least of our concerns. He's here for a year, he's got his money, he's out to prove his worth and ability. He has never been a money guy (like Haynesworth may be) or a 'me' guy just interested in himself. He's a pride guy and I think last year will motivate him even more to prove it was a fluke and he's not done.

I say move on. I want guys that are going want to put on the burgundy and gold. Not guys that are looking to extend their careers and pocketing more money. There is no way you can tell me that Taylor's heart is into playing here cause it's not. I get so tired of bringing in other teams players. When is this non sense ever going to stop?? Nothing in the past proves that building a team and making other teams players the highest paid on your own team works. Show me one example of any NFL team that has won a SB by bringing in old free agents or other teams players??