Database Update: Consensus Projections, DE, OT, and LB ranking links

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DirtyLandry
02-21-2009, 10:12 PM
It's been a bizarre few days for Alabama offensive tackle Andre Smith, considered by most to be a top five pick. Immediately before the second group of offensive linemen were about to start their workout, an official announcement was made stating Smith had left the combine headquarters unannounced. After a long search, Smith was found 30 minutes before the workout began. The announcement went on to say Smith and his agent were giving conflicting stories as to the reason of his disappearance. Sources later said Smith's interviews with teams have been going horribly. He's been inappropriately dressed and has been giving a number of conflicting statements as to why he was choosing not to workout at the combine. Several offensive line coaches have already suggested Smith be removed from their team's draft board and there's no doubt his draft stock is falling.

Risers and sliders on offensive line at NFL combine - NFL - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/02/21/scouting.combine/index.html?eref=si_nfl)

You can hear the money falling out of his pockets. What a moron.

53Fan
02-21-2009, 10:15 PM
Thanks for the link Smoot! Informative stuff. Definitely looks like A. Smith and H. Johnson are headed in the wrong direction.

GMScud
02-21-2009, 10:20 PM
Risers and sliders on offensive line at NFL combine - NFL - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/02/21/scouting.combine/index.html?eref=si_nfl)

William Beatty/OT/Connecticut: One of the nation's better pass blockers proved he is one of the best athletes of all the offensive linemen in attendance. Beatty weighed a stout 307 pounds and completed 27 reps on the bench. He ran his 40s in just over five seconds, then looked very smooth during position drills.

I've liked this kid for a while. If we trade down for extra picks, I'd love to snag him. I think he'll end up mid-2nd round. Notice the snipet about PASS blocking...

The Goat
02-21-2009, 10:21 PM
Ok does anybody know whether our FO has met w/ Andre Smith and if anything came out of it?

GMScud
02-21-2009, 10:23 PM
Ok does anybody know whether our FO has met w/ Andre Smith and if anything came out of it?

Yeah, we met with him earlier in the week. No idea what came out of it.

The Goat
02-21-2009, 10:26 PM
Yeah, we met with him earlier in the week. No idea what came out of it.

Well I'd be extremely interested to know... where's the inside info guys? I know Samuels also came from Alabama so does anyone know whether these two have met at school functions, etc? Would be very cool if Samuels had an opinion of Smith's character and potential.

GMScud
02-21-2009, 10:33 PM
Well I'd be extremely interested to know... where's the inside info guys? I know Samuels also came from Alabama so does anyone know whether these two have met at school functions, etc? Would be very cool if Samuels had an opinion of Smith's character and potential.

Good luck finding out specifically what the Skins think about him. No one wants to tip their hand as far as their player evaluation right now. You'll hear a lot of "anonymous sources" being quoted however.

skinsfan_nn
02-21-2009, 11:18 PM
Risers and Sliders at the combine:

Risers and sliders on offensive line at NFL combine - NFL - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/02/21/scouting.combine/index.html)

skinsfan_nn
02-21-2009, 11:22 PM
Ok does anybody know whether our FO has met w/ Andre Smith and if anything came out of it?

Have know clue. But news out of the combine today wasn't very good. Per SI.com

Notes

It's been a bizarre few days for Alabama offensive tackle Andre Smith, considered by most to be a top five pick. Immediately before the second group of offensive linemen were about to start their workout, an official announcement was made stating Smith had left the combine headquarters unannounced. After a long search, Smith was found 30 minutes before the workout began. The announcement went on to say Smith and his agent were giving conflicting stories as to the reason of his disappearance. Sources later said Smith's interviews with teams have been going horribly. He's been inappropriately dressed and has been giving a number of conflicting statements as to why he was choosing not to workout at the combine. Several offensive line coaches have already suggested Smith be removed from their team's draft board and there's no doubt his draft stock is falling.

GMScud
02-22-2009, 12:09 AM
Goat, I know you were interested in team interviews of Andre Smith. The kid is butchering his future right now apparently:

SMITH’S STOCK TAKING A HIT FOR REASONS UNRELATED TO WORKOUT (http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/02/21/smiths-stock-taking-a-hit-for-reasons-unrelated-to-workout/)

Posted by Mike Florio on February 21, 2009, 9:25 p.m.


As if the bizarre departure of Alabama tackle Andre Smith from Indianapolis didn’t raise enough questions about his pro prospects, some of the things Smith did and said in Indy might have done even more damage.
According to Tony Pauline of SI.com, Smith had a bad round of interviews on Friday.
“Smith’s interviews with teams have been going horribly (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/nfl/02/21/scouting.combine/index.html),” Pauline reports. “He’s been inappropriately dressed and has been giving a number of conflicting statements as to why he was choosing not to workout at the combine. Several offensive line coaches have already suggested Smith be removed from their team’s draft board and there’s no doubt his draft stock is falling.”
Though high-end tackles create a lower percentage of busts than positions like quarterback and receiver, few tackles have had such a bad experience at the Scouting Combine. As a result, anyone who recommends that the team use a high first-round pick on Smith needs to have a high degree of job security — or needs to be right.

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