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Ruhskins
02-21-2009, 05:29 PM
Our D-Line is in shambles IMO. It was bad enough last year, but Griffin and Carter are a year older, and probably a year slower. Who knows if Daniels/Evans/Montgomery/Griffin will be back...their all FA's. And none of them are truly starting caliber. You think Taylor was garbage last year? I guarantee you he will try even less in what might be the last year of his career. He doesnt care about Washington DC, and he has been "dancing" his way into retirement since last year while he robs us blind of 8.5 mil this year.

So going after the best DE available, who happened to register 11 sacks the previous season, was a terrible move? Can you please tell me of the psychic that told you Jason Taylor was going to have a terrible injury this past season before the Redskins traded for him (b/c you obviously you knew that), so I can ask about winning lottery numbers?

And you're guaranteeing that Jason is going to have a garbage year? You're that tight with him that he told you that? Maybe you should convince him to retire then.

BeastsoftheNFCeast
02-21-2009, 06:27 PM
So going after the best DE available, who happened to register 11 sacks the previous season, was a terrible move? Can you please tell me of the psychic that told you Jason Taylor was going to have a terrible injury this past season before the Redskins traded for him (b/c you obviously you knew that), so I can ask about winning lottery numbers?

And you're guaranteeing that Jason is going to have a garbage year? You're that tight with him that he told you that? Maybe you should convince him to retire then.
Yea I must be what you call "psychic" because I was pissed as hell the moment we made this trade.
Call me "psychic that I thought a 34 year old DE who spent his whole off season promoting his celebrity status might not work out.
Call me "psychic" that I didn't think a player who was traded 3 weeks before our first game would be an instant impact.
Call me "psychic" that I was very unhappy that our largest DE was 250lbs.
Call me "psychic" that I was uncomfortable with the fact that Parcells wanted to get rid of him, and not even for a 1st rounder.

Hey and you know what, since I'm apparently "psychic" I will magically predict that a man who just sucked the previous season, has no loyalty to his team, is old as dirt, is going to retire next season and who is unwilling to take a paycut will not deliver on the field? If it was about anything but the money for Taylor at this point he would recognize that he is getting extremely overpaid and take the cut to help out his team. Seriously, If it's not worth it for him to play for 6 million, when he is still worth less, it's clearly all about the money. When a player doesnt give a shit in his final season, he will suck. Period.

Oh and BTW, I told him to retire now, but he said back to me that 8.5 mil in easy money was worth one more season...but no less.

53Fan
02-21-2009, 06:42 PM
If this happens, then it is no one's fault but just how things turn out to be. He was injured a lot and would have affected our cap number had he stayed with us. If he goes to the Eagles (or any other team) and succeeds then good for him, but I hope people don't come back and b!tch about it.

I can promise you..I will.

MTK
02-21-2009, 06:44 PM
Watch Marcus sign with someone like the Eagles, rejuvinate his career and have a probowl season. I'm not halfway kidding.

I don't doubt he could come back strong. The big question is can he stay healthy.

DirtyLandry
02-21-2009, 08:53 PM
I really wasn't advocating that we should have kept Mr. Washington. I was simply stating that it would be our luck that this scenario could happen. Seems that when we part ways with a good player he goes elsewhere (particularly a division rival) and has a career year just to spite the redskins.

MTK
02-21-2009, 09:59 PM
Yea I must be what you call "psychic" because I was pissed as hell the moment we made this trade.
Call me "psychic that I thought a 34 year old DE who spent his whole off season promoting his celebrity status might not work out.
Call me "psychic" that I didn't think a player who was traded 3 weeks before our first game would be an instant impact.
Call me "psychic" that I was very unhappy that our largest DE was 250lbs.
Call me "psychic" that I was uncomfortable with the fact that Parcells wanted to get rid of him, and not even for a 1st rounder.

Hey and you know what, since I'm apparently "psychic" I will magically predict that a man who just sucked the previous season, has no loyalty to his team, is old as dirt, is going to retire next season and who is unwilling to take a paycut will not deliver on the field? If it was about anything but the money for Taylor at this point he would recognize that he is getting extremely overpaid and take the cut to help out his team. Seriously, If it's not worth it for him to play for 6 million, when he is still worth less, it's clearly all about the money. When a player doesnt give a shit in his final season, he will suck. Period.

Oh and BTW, I told him to retire now, but he said back to me that 8.5 mil in easy money was worth one more season...but no less.

If you were so upset about this you didn't express it when the deal went down... not here at least. I checked your post history and didn't find any of your crystal ball predictions.

sportscurmudgeon
02-21-2009, 11:14 PM
Thoughts on the D-Line:

This unit is hardly a dominant force in the league - - but it is not nearly the biggest problem area for the Skins to address going into the 2009 season.


Lorenzo Alexander: Very versatile. That's another way of saying that he has not yet shown himself to be good enough at any one thing that the team will put him at that position and not look to move him around. May be a decent player some day.


Ryan Boschetti: Yawn.


Andre Carter: Solid DE who could start for other teams in the league. You cannot say that about lots of the rest of the defensive linemen on the roster.


Philip Daniels: Coming off injured reserve at age 36 is not an easy thing to do for a defensive lineman in the NFL. If healthy, he is a savvy player who can give good effort if he only has to be in there for 40-50% of the defensive snaps.


Demetric Evans: Hard worker. Gets all he can out of his physical skills. He is NOT worth signing to some kind of long term deal.


Kedric Golston: Still young and developing. Maybe a decent player someday. Keep him around...


Cornelius Griffin: I believe that Father Time is gaining on him rapidly. Maybe he has another year left - - maybe not.


Rob Jackson: Who knows? He hasn't played enough yet to know if he is worth the trouble to wash his uniform from game to game because he doesn't get any grass stains on it.


Anthony Montgomery: Becoming a decent run stopper but he does not get much pressure up the middle on passing plays. He's young and can still get better so you keep him around.


Jason Taylor: Assuming he is completely healed, he is the best DL on the team. Problem is that he is also going into his 13th season ...


Chris Wilson: Who knows? See Rob Jackson comment above...


Overall assessment is that this is a patchwork unit that can play well if the coaches put together game plans that will work to the strengths of these players AND if they can rotate bodies into and out of the games such that they DL does not wear down badly in 4th quarter situations. Last year they wore down badly in more than a couple of 4th quarter situations and that is NOT a good sign given how young most of the group is.

44ever
02-22-2009, 12:01 AM
If you were so upset about this you didn't express it when the deal went down... not here at least. I checked your post history and didn't find any of your crystal ball predictions.

Thats interesting Matty. I was just looking at the JT thread the other day and was suprised to see that you were actually against the deal. At least in the posts i read. Good call hindsight. Most people were all for it.

With that said I dont think JT was milking it. of course its easy money but if he's 100% this season he will Ball

Ruhskins
02-22-2009, 02:36 PM
Yea I must be what you call "psychic" because I was pissed as hell the moment we made this trade.
Call me "psychic that I thought a 34 year old DE who spent his whole off season promoting his celebrity status might not work out.
Call me "psychic" that I didn't think a player who was traded 3 weeks before our first game would be an instant impact.
Call me "psychic" that I was very unhappy that our largest DE was 250lbs.
Call me "psychic" that I was uncomfortable with the fact that Parcells wanted to get rid of him, and not even for a 1st rounder.

Hey and you know what, since I'm apparently "psychic" I will magically predict that a man who just sucked the previous season, has no loyalty to his team, is old as dirt, is going to retire next season and who is unwilling to take a paycut will not deliver on the field? If it was about anything but the money for Taylor at this point he would recognize that he is getting extremely overpaid and take the cut to help out his team. Seriously, If it's not worth it for him to play for 6 million, when he is still worth less, it's clearly all about the money. When a player doesnt give a shit in his final season, he will suck. Period.

Oh and BTW, I told him to retire now, but he said back to me that 8.5 mil in easy money was worth one more season...but no less.

Great, if you're such a psychic, go work for Cerrato or some other NFL team, your vast talents are going to waste in this minor website.

Although, I don't know how much of a psychic you are if the only thing you posted around the time of the Daniels injury was this:

re: 07-20-2008, 03:14 PM
BeastsoftheNFCeast
Special TeamsPhillip Daniels is done for the season, Buzbee also hurt (updated)
well, I dont know exactly what we're going to do about this, but I do no that whatever we do, we are going to severely overpay for it. Jason Taylor or otherwise. Demetric Evans starting would be a huge joke, and james coming off a 2nd torn ACL would be completely ineffective untill at least the end of the season when it is too late. We need somebody else. At least this happened sooner rather than later. :-(

So you only predicted that we were going to overpay..and well a 2nd round for someone who got hurt is overpaying so I give you that much.

horny4zorny-nohomo
02-22-2009, 05:15 PM
they already tagged suggs

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