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Trample the Elderly
02-14-2009, 12:33 PM
This team does not draft well. We've tried to "develop" guys like Golston and Montgomery and where has that gotten us?

I can also guarantee that Haynesworth is not Bruce Smith, Deon Sanders or Adam Archuletta. I can understand why fans are apprehensive when it comes to free agent acquisitions, but it doesn't mean you just shy away from FA's all together. Drafting well is important, but so is spending top dollar to add elite players that could augment your entire team.

I made my pick and I'm sticking to it.

REDSKIN1
02-14-2009, 12:40 PM
I'm going out on my on here but I would have to say Matt Hassleback. Even though I like Campbell and I think he can develop. But, the true problem on our offense down the stretch was the quaterback play. The def. finished ranked number 4, so I will leave them alone. Portis ran for over 1200 yards, so the off. line must have been doing something right. However we didn't have one receiver over 1000 yards and Chris Cooley only had 1 touchdown catch. I would trade Jason Campbell and this years first round pick. And if I couldn't get Matt I would go after Donovan. Up grade the QB position and hopefully one of our Rookie wide receivers steps up to fill the number 2 spot and move Randel to the slot. Worry about up grading the line next year.

What do you think?

DirtyLandry
02-14-2009, 12:45 PM
I would get Hasselbeck as a back up.

53Fan
02-14-2009, 12:46 PM
I'm going out on my on here but I would have to say Matt Hassleback. Even though I like Campbell and I think he can develop. But, the true problem on our offense down the stretch was the quaterback play. The def. finished ranked number 4, so I will leave them alone. Portis ran for over 1200 yards, so the off. line must have been doing something right. However we didn't have one receiver over 1000 yards and Chris Cooley only had 1 touchdown catch. I would trade Jason Campbell and this years first round pick. And if I couldn't get Matt I would go after Donovan. Up grade the QB position and hopefully one of our Rookie wide receivers steps up to fill the number 2 spot and move Randel to the slot. Worry about up grading the line next year.

What do you think?

You asked. :laughing2

REDSKIN1
02-14-2009, 12:49 PM
I'm going out on my on here but I would have to say Matt Hassleback. Even though I like Campbell and I think he can develop. But, the true problem on our offense down the stretch was the quaterback play. The def. finished ranked number 4, so I will leave them alone. Portis ran for over 1200 yards, so the off. line must have been doing something right. However we didn't have one receiver over 1000 yards and Chris Cooley only had 1 touchdown catch. I would trade Jason Campbell and this years first round pick. And if I couldn't get Matt I would go after Donovan. Up grade the QB position and hopefully one of our Rookie wide receivers steps up to fill the number 2 spot and move Randel to the slot. Worry about up grading the line next year.

What do you think?

You asked. :laughing2


Which part do you find the funniest?

Trample the Elderly
02-14-2009, 12:55 PM
I'm going out on my on here but I would have to say Matt Hassleback. Even though I like Campbell and I think he can develop. But, the true problem on our offense down the stretch was the quaterback play. The def. finished ranked number 4, so I will leave them alone. Portis ran for over 1200 yards, so the off. line must have been doing something right. However we didn't have one receiver over 1000 yards and Chris Cooley only had 1 touchdown catch. I would trade Jason Campbell and this years first round pick. And if I couldn't get Matt I would go after Donovan. Up grade the QB position and hopefully one of our Rookie wide receivers steps up to fill the number 2 spot and move Randel to the slot. Worry about up grading the line next year.

What do you think?

I think that's a bad idea. Hassleback is good and I'm sure Z would love to have him, but no. Your assesment of what went wrong with the offense is flawed. Insert any quarterback behind a solid line and they'll do good if they're even half way decent.
Take a look at what Arizona did with Warner. The difference was an offensive line that Grim developed. Look at the Titans. Ask yourself, is Collins that good?
Your line of thinking is geared toward the flash players. You cannot ignore the trenches and have a good team, period. We've been doing exactly that for a long time. There is no excuse for not drafting or picking up a quality C, OT, OG, DB, DE or at the very least an OLB this year. While I'm on the Lechler bandwagon, the lines are the most glaring need for this team, especially RT.

53Fan
02-14-2009, 12:56 PM
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Which part do you find the funniest?

Trading JC AND a first round pick. Waiting till next year to upgrade the line. Even if we had Hassleback, he'd probably be running for his life if we don't do something about our o-line. No offense intended.

44ever
02-14-2009, 01:04 PM
I'm going out on my on here but I would have to say Matt Hassleback. Even though I like Campbell and I think he can develop. But, the true problem on our offense down the stretch was the quaterback play. The def. finished ranked number 4, so I will leave them alone. Portis ran for over 1200 yards, so the off. line must have been doing something right. However we didn't have one receiver over 1000 yards and Chris Cooley only had 1 touchdown catch. I would trade Jason Campbell and this years first round pick. And if I couldn't get Matt I would go after Donovan. Up grade the QB position and hopefully one of our Rookie wide receivers steps up to fill the number 2 spot and move Randel to the slot. Worry about up grading the line next year.

What do you think?

Dont let Matty F...QB talk see this:)

44ever
02-14-2009, 01:10 PM
I'm going out on my on here but I would have to say Matt Hassleback. Even though I like Campbell and I think he can develop. But, the true problem on our offense down the stretch was the quaterback play. The def. finished ranked number 4, so I will leave them alone. Portis ran for over 1200 yards, so the off. line must have been doing something right. However we didn't have one receiver over 1000 yards and Chris Cooley only had 1 touchdown catch. I would trade Jason Campbell and this years first round pick. And if I couldn't get Matt I would go after Donovan. Up grade the QB position and hopefully one of our Rookie wide receivers steps up to fill the number 2 spot and move Randel to the slot. Worry about up grading the line next year.

What do you think?

You asked. :laughing2

53, Should I loan him some of my Meds?

REDSKIN1
02-14-2009, 01:10 PM
I think that's a bad idea. Hassleback is good and I'm sure Z would love to have him, but no. Your assesment of what went wrong with the offense is flawed. Insert any quarterback behind a solid line and they'll do good if they're even half way decent.
Take a look at what Arizona did with Warner. The difference was an offensive line that Grim developed. Look at the Titans. Ask yourself, is Collins that good?
Your line of thinking is geared toward the flash players. You cannot ignore the trenches and have a good team, period. We've been doing exactly that for a long time. There is no excuse for not drafting or picking up a quality C, OT, OG, DB, DE or at the very least an OLB this year. While I'm on the Lechler bandwagon, the lines are the most glaring need for this team, especially RT.

I understand where you are coming from and I do agree that the line needs to be addressed. However, I do think that for the most part Jason did have adequate time to get some passes off that were not on target. Jason's decision making was a little slow so he held the ball longer than he should have which in turn got him sacked and made the line look bad. I'm not saying that the off. line bears no blame. There were a few times that Jason could not even get back in his stance before a defender was on him. I don't see us going after Matt or Donovan, I agree there are many other positions that need help other than the QB. However this thread said to pick ONE player and make a case for that player. Thats why I picked the QB position. It's the most influential position on the field....

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