New contracts for Andre Carter and Randle El

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Ruhskins
02-12-2009, 06:50 PM
No and I'll tell you why

Yes?

Skinny Tee
02-12-2009, 07:17 PM
Well Campbell said going into the offseason that you may see some unexpected turnover with the offense.

Could Randle El's signing secure his spot with us and leave Moss's in doubt? If El is still here who is going to be the unexpected offensive Redskins not with us next year?

Moss could be dangling on a trade string as we speak.

skinsfan_nn
02-12-2009, 07:49 PM
Well Campbell said going into the offseason that you may see some unexpected turnover with the offense.

Could Randle El's signing secure his spot with us and leave Moss's in doubt? If El is still here who is going to be the unexpected offensive Redskins not with us next year?

Moss could be dangling on a trade string as we speak.

I guess anything is possible, but that move would be very unlikely. And If I had to guess Moss is going nowhere.

53Fan
02-12-2009, 08:23 PM
No and I'll tell you why

Never thought of that Dirtbag. :)

horse
02-12-2009, 08:32 PM
So for the people that complain my question is...if we don't restructure, what else can the team do? Wouldn't cutting some of these guys would affect our cap more? I know that restructuring is not a good thing, but isn't it a lesser of two evils?

Thats what I'm saying. Maybe ARE did'nt do the job he thought he should and took a cut, I say good for him.

Slingin Sammy 33
02-12-2009, 08:33 PM
Great Start to not cutting Springs, Washington, Taylor and Daniels. If we cut all of these non performers we have no cap issues. Cerrattos insanity continues.
Yes, it certainly makes sense to cut a starting LB, starting CB, and two potential starting DEs with no replacement signed or in-house. What a dumb-ass Cerrato is.

What type of leverage would the Skins be giving Hall if they cut Springs now? That one move could cost the organization $ 10-15M additional in Hall's contract because we lose the leverage of being able to walk away from Hall if the price tag gets too high. What if we can't draft a DE or get one in FA? Cutting Taylor and Daniels now would leave us in pretty bad shape, correct.

I'm not saying these moves shouldn't be made, ultimately they'll clear $ 21M + in cap space, but they need to be timed correctly, FA doesn't open until March 1 and we must be under the cap by Feb 27. The draft is the next step. We can also delay dead-cap hits on these guys after June 1. A restructure/extension for AC, I've got no issue with, ARE I think is already overpaid, but based on his contract no way he is released until after the 2010 season. Understand the business side of things before you make the "Cerrato insanity" remark.

The Goat
02-12-2009, 08:42 PM
Yes, it certainly makes sense to cut a starting LB, starting CB, and two potential starting DEs with no replacement signed or in-house. What a dumb-ass Cerrato is.

What type of leverage would the Skins be giving Hall is they cut Springs now? That one move could cost the organization $ 10-15M additional in Hall's contract because we lose the leverage of being able to walk away from Hall if the price tag gets too high.

What if we can't draft a DE or get one in FA? Cutting Taylor and Daniels now would leave us in pretty bad shape, correct. I'm not saying these moves shouldn't be made, but understand the business side of things before you make the "Cerrato insanity" remark.

Wise points all around. I'd only remark that cutting Daniels and Taylor would leave us shallow at end, in terms on an injury putting an untested replacement in the spotlight, but keep in mind for most of '08 it was Evans and Carter starting and they we're serviceable.

... i'm just looking ahead and thinking that if the rumors about Marcus are true we're facing a much bigger issue at OLB than at DE even if Daniels and Taylor are cut.

Nflnick11
02-12-2009, 08:56 PM
Now this creates more money to spend on hall and maybe a really good free agent like haynesworth or peppers, or max starks...

Slingin Sammy 33
02-12-2009, 09:00 PM
Wise points all around. I'd only remark that cutting Daniels and Taylor would leave us shallow at end, in terms on an injury putting an untested replacement in the spotlight, but keep in mind for most of '08 it was Evans and Carter starting and they we're serviceable.
I agree with you completely, that's the whole point of the restructure of ARE & AC. The FO is buying time and giving the Skins options in FA & the draft. With the two restructures we aren't forcing our hand on a specific position. We have leverage, we don't need to get into a bidding war for a particular guy or give up picks to move up to fill a glaring need. If we nail down a better replacement in FA or the draft, then Taylor and/or Daniels are cut. If not, we hold on to them. To your point, if we lock up Dansby (doubtful) or a better OLB in FA or the draft then goodbye Washington. But to make these moves before we have a better option is the true insanity.

MTK
02-12-2009, 09:21 PM
I agree with you completely, that's the whole point of the restructure of ARE & AC. The FO is buying time and giving the Skins options in FA & the draft. With the two restructures we aren't forcing our hand on a specific position. We have leverage, we don't need to get into a bidding war for a particular guy or give up picks to move up to fill a glaring need. If we nail down a better replacement in FA or the draft, then Taylor and/or Daniels are cut. If not, we hold on to them. To your point, if we lock up Dansby (doubtful) or a better OLB in FA or the draft then goodbye Washington. But to make these moves before we have a better option is the true insanity.

ahh a little bit of sanity goes a long way

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