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GTripp0012 02-17-2009, 06:53 PM TO was a 30+ year old locker room cancer everywhere he ever played. What on earth has Hall done in the past two years that even comes close to comparing to anything TO has done. The comparision is so absurd, i cant beleive even you take it seriously.It's absurd only because Owens was at one point a great player.
No one can seriously argue that Hall has done crap in the NFL. His teams have won what, like, 7 games in the last two years? 15 in the last three? 21 in the last four? That's Raider-esque.
He's struggled in his development while showing flashes of his potential (such has his rookie season, a month or so in 2007, and while he's been here), but that's it.
I don't care how many interceptions he has because that tells me absolutely nothing about how good he is.
SmootSmack 02-17-2009, 06:57 PM I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I think last year was a strong year to draft a starting caliber CB. For example, maybe they could have passed on Thomas and taken Brandon Flowers but they didn't. Lucky for them, D. Hall has fallen in their laps. I think they'd be foolish to pass on the opportunity to lock him up and line him up with Rogers for the next 5-10 years.
GTripp0012 02-17-2009, 06:58 PM Getting rid of Rogers, who was universally regarded as an 'arrogant punk' by the people covering the team every day could impact chemistry in a very bad way?
It's so funny how people let their entire perception of someone be formed by what they hear in the national media. The hilarious thing about D. Hall is before he played for Bobby Petrino and had his on field blowup with him, there were no concerns about his attitude in Atlanta. He was widely considered one of the top CB in the game and expected to be an all pro for years to come. He plays for a coach that even Warrick Dunn (WARRICK DUNN!) had nothing but negative words about, then went to an even worse, more dysfunctional organization than the Falcons were and now he's a terrible, overrated CB who's a major character risk. Really?You didn't by any chance here any of this through the national media, did you?
Because THAT would be hilarious.
GTripp0012 02-17-2009, 07:00 PM I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I think last year was a strong year to draft a starting caliber CB. For example, maybe they could have passed on Thomas and taken Brandon Flowers but they didn't. Lucky for them, D. Hall has fallen in their laps. I think they'd be foolish to pass on the opportunity to lock him up and line him up with Rogers for the next 5-10 years.I don't think there's any doubt they will.
I also think there's no hurry to get anything done. It's not like Hall has serious interest from the rest of the teams in the NFL, all of whom could have had him basically free of charge at mid-season. Waiting seems like it would save us some money.
Why would anyone who has ever ripped Vinny Cerrato be in such a rush to pump 8 figures into Hall's bank account in this economic climate? That's like the most irresponsible thing he could possibly do.
53Fan 02-17-2009, 07:00 PM How did we get from signing Hall to bashing Springs? Whether Hall is worthy or not of signing to a contract should have nothing to do with Springs. If a guy has great talent and has shown that he would improve your team then he should be signed. But to COMPLETELY ignore a guys behavior in the past and sign him to a big long term contract would be foolish. Hall is aware of his past and any reservations about him. If he's not, he must have his head up his ass. If he wants to play here, GREAT! Offer him a contract! But be reasonable, he's the one who created the doubts. He's the one who should deal with it. Be reasonable about a contract. Maybe a shorter deal, say 3 years, would be the best way to go. If he plays great we'll have to pony up in three years, but if he doesn't, we won't be dealing with this forever like it seems like we're doing with some other guys.
GTripp0012 02-17-2009, 07:01 PM How did we get from signing Hall to bashing Springs? Whether Hall is worthy or not of signing to a contract should have nothing to do with Springs. If a guy has great talent and has shown that he would improve your team then he should be signed. But to COMPLETELY ignore a guys behavior in the past and sign him to be a big long term contract would be foolish. Hall is aware of his past and any reservations about him. If he's not, he must have his head up his ass. If he wants to play here, GREAT! Offer him a contract! But be reasonable, he's the one who created the doubts. He's the one who should deal with it. Be reasonable about a contract. Maybe a shorter deal, say 3 years, would be the best way to go. If he plays great we'll have to pony up in three years, but if he doesn't, we won't be dealing with this forever like it seems like we're doing with some other guys.Good summary of all relevant points. Nice work.
Remember the Bears game in 2007 when Springs' back was hurting so badly he could barely stand up straight, and he intercepted 2 passes one of which he returned like 50 yards to set up a score that sealed the game?? We had just buried ST, and Campbell was carted off the field with a dislocated knee. We had every reason to curl up and die, and Shawn was huge for us.
We can all agree that Todd Collins was our offensive MVP during that 4 game run to the playoffs. There's no question in my mind Springs was our defensive MVP during that stretch. He was awesome. No one was questioning his heart then.
Exactly the game I was thinking of. He was a game time decision and he was pretty doubtful to go, but he ended up having a HUGE game that helped spark that playoff run.
But yeah the dude has no heart... give me a break.
SmootSmack 02-17-2009, 07:20 PM I had brought up that 2007 game and the subsequent three games but was told that "2007 is irrelevant" so there you have it.
Eknox 02-17-2009, 07:35 PM He only played a short time, and showed he could be a game changer had he played a couple more games he might have led the team in INT's
44ever 02-17-2009, 08:07 PM I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I think last year was a strong year to draft a starting caliber CB. For example, maybe they could have passed on Thomas and taken Brandon Flowers but they didn't. Lucky for them, D. Hall has fallen in their laps. I think they'd be foolish to pass on the opportunity to lock him up and line him up with Rogers for the next 5-10 years.
Now this post makes sence to me. Id like to see Hall and Rogers here next season and beyond also.
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