Comparative Federal Tax Contribution by State

Look at what happened during the Depression. There was the first “new deal” and the “second new deal”. The whole lets not give handouts was the thought by the government then too.

What happened? During the First new Deal they tried giving Tax cuts to the large corporations hoping that it would boost the economy and enable them to provide new jobs along with other things. Did it? No, because if it had worked there wouldn't have been a second new deal. In the second New Deal they attacked the problem at its source...The people.

The Government set up special works projects etc. so that "it wasn't a handout" but in the end they were still fighting the depression along with getting some other things taken care of. In fact 95% of our highway system was built during the depression and funded by the Government.

So you do not want to give out handouts...fine, Don't give handouts to corporations either. Lets fund a whole bunch of special projects to better the infrastructure. One particular project that comes to my mind is New Orleans. It needs to be rebuilt badly. How about, we rebuild it so well that it never has to worry about being flooded again? If man can make an Island that floats out in Southwest Asia, then we can use the same technology to float the infrastructure of New Orleans during floods and hurricanes. Think about it. That is a large project that would require a lot of workers and it isn't a handout.

But my thinking is, if you are going to give a handout, which our government did; then give it to the people not to the corporations. History has already taught us twice now that it doesn't work that way.
One flaw in your logic is this. The New Deal didn't bring us out of the depression. WWII did. The other is that there are billions of non-stimulus provisions in this "stimulus" bill. A giant portion of it is entitlement and social support money intended to help people THROUGH the recession, not end it. Every single penny of that portion should be taking out and run through appropriations rather than smacked into the middle of a "emergency" bill that will hopefully save us from "utter and total destruction."

Last time I checked making ammunition and weapons for the military was a special works project.

Edit: And this time War helped pull us into a depression.
And that is total crap. The wars in Iraq and Afganistan have nothing to do with the current situation.

$15 != (thx Saden) $3333

And that is total crap. The wars in Iraq and Afganistan have nothing to do with the current situation.

I never said caused. I said helped. And those conflicts have more to do with the current situation than you might want to believe.

Every U.S. Service member and employee in those areas is not paying taxes. They are making more money, which in turn is giving them more disposable income. Some people may be saving up that extra money, but where do you think that most of them are spending their disposable income? It certainly isn't here in the U.S.

It may not be the cause of, but it isn't helping. The bright side is that once these guys are all back, they will be doing some heavy spending.

Obama promised people he would help them fill up their tank, the $15 a week is more than enough help to do that. You can even splurge and buy an extra gallon of milk or two now that gas prices are lower.

Let's not try to coerce a square peg into a round hole. I assure you though that the $15 will be spent. If you give people chump change, they will spend it, if you give them $3333 they're more likely to payoff bills and save the rest. You guys do understand this point don't you? There's science and research (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_accounting) behind this type of thinking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_pricing).

one question, if i am in the low-middle class bracket (which i am), and i get $400 dollars this year, what is the amount of tax debt I am getting myself into?
If i am getting 400 and over 10 years have to pay back 1000, then i can accept that i guess, but if i am getting 400, and over 10years have to pay back 20,000, then not so much.
Also, I am assuming that this 790Million dollars does just go straight into debt correct, and that the true government budget, will be on top of this stimulus?

I never said caused. I said helped. And those conflicts have more to do with the current situation than you might want to believe.

Every U.S. Service member and employee in those areas is not paying taxes. They are making more money, which in turn is giving them more disposable income. Some people may be saving up that extra money, but where do you think that most of them are spending their disposable income? It certainly isn't here in the U.S.

It may not be the cause of, but it isn't helping. The bright side is that once these guys are all back, they will be doing some heavy spending.
That money is coming back here and I see that everytime a ship pulls into port. Not sure of the % but alot of these guys are married and their checks get deposited here at home in the USA. I live in Tidewater Va. and I'm surrounded by the millitary so I see it everyday. You also bring up that they do not pay taxes on that money so they have more to spend.

That money is coming back here and I see that everytime a ship pulls into port. Not sure of the % but alot of these guys are married and their checks get deposited here at home in the USA. I live in Tidewater Va. and I'm surrounded by the millitary so I see it everyday. You also bring up that they do not pay taxes on that money so they have more to spend.

White Flag...I give up. I was making a smart assed remark about War pulling us into a depression because you give credit to a War pulling us out. Neither statment is entirely correct. It was the jobs created by the government that pulled us out of the depression. The fact that there was a war going on only dictated the type of jobs that were created.


This is going no where fast and I'm tired of discussing it.

By the way War isn't pulling us out of a depression now is it? We have been at war for 8 years and the economy still went into the toilet.