FRPLG
09-14-2004, 03:24 PM
Norv Turner is a coach of the Raiders for two reasons. First Al Davis is an dumb ass. He had all these better options like Charlie Wiess or Jim Fassel and he picks that fool from dallas first and then Turner. Second because this is a racist league. There was were only so many good white coaches left so Davis had to go with Turner. I remind everyone that AL davis could have Romeo Crunnel coaching his team right now, but he got turner instead.
You realize that Al Davis actually hired both the first black and the first hispanic head coaches in history right? Charging Al Davis with racism strikes me as assanine since he is generally regarded as the most opne minded owner in the league in this regard.
I won't dispute that league history is full of racism on the sidelines but the league is trying to get better and focus on making a fundamental cultural change.
PS. This will be the last time I ever show any type of support for that retard Al Davis. I just thought the whole racism comment was out of line in the context and tone it was presented.
Hogskin
09-14-2004, 03:33 PM
Norv Turner is a coach of the Raiders for two reasons. First Al Davis is an dumb ass. He had all these better options like Charlie Wiess or Jim Fassel and he picks that fool from dallas first and then Turner. Second because this is a racist league. There was were only so many good white coaches left so Davis had to go with Turner. I remind everyone that AL davis could have Romeo Crunnel coaching his team right now, but he got turner instead.
Hold on a sec!! I don't like Al Davis any better than anyone else here, but let's at least TRY to be reasonable and fair. Don't make racist accusations that don't fit. I seem to remember VERY early on, a Raider head coach with plenty of pigment.
FRPLG
09-14-2004, 03:40 PM
Hold on a sec!! I don't like Al Davis any better than anyone else here, but let's at least TRY to be reasonable and fair. Don't make racist accusations that don't fit. I seem to remember VERY early on, a Raider head coach with plenty of pigment.
Exactly
RedskinRat
09-14-2004, 03:57 PM
"Just whine, baby!"
Ha ha, that's great. How about "Commitment to Excrement".
Damn, I hate the Raiders, bloody Marcus Allen.
Riggo44
09-14-2004, 04:14 PM
Norv Turner is a coach of the Raiders for two reasons. First Al Davis is an dumb ass. He had all these better options like Charlie Wiess or Jim Fassel and he picks that fool from dallas first and then Turner. Second because this is a racist league. There was were only so many good white coaches left so Davis had to go with Turner. I remind everyone that AL davis could have Romeo Crunnel coaching his team right now, but he got turner instead.
I hate the Raiders as much if not more then the next guy, living here in" Raider Nation "! I deal with the trashy wanna be gangsta Raider fan daily! So it makes me happy ever time they lose. Just thinking about all the Raider fans out there crying in there beer brings a smile to my face ever time! :D
But they did give Art Shell a job as there head coach for a few years. And I think he was the first Black Head coach in the league. So I don't know if you can say there racist.
Al Davis might be a total jackass but I don't think he is a racist.
I feel for Norv he should have stayed in Miami!
:httr:
I put up with 7 years of that crap. Please delete the thread and get rid of his name. Just don't want to hear anything good or bad about whats his name :doh:
skins009
09-14-2004, 05:08 PM
My bad guys, you are right, I had no idea that Al Davis hired the first black and hispanic coaches in this league. But I still think the league as a whole has a lot of racism against black coaches.
Well I don't think the racisim exist on the sideline anymore. Please point to a team that this might exist or has the perception that this might exist. The Lions come to mind but I think that might be it.
Would be a interesting thread to talk about if we don't get to personal. I am white and would love dearly to discuss things like this to open my mind to how others percieve things.
SKINSnCANES
09-14-2004, 06:05 PM
this thread is about turned, not racism. I dotn see hardly any racisim in football anymore.
As far as turners coaching, eh, whatever i dotn even care. The raiders have a good team in my opinon. I think as the season goes on no one will run on them up the middle. Sapp and Washington, damn.
That Guy
09-14-2004, 06:17 PM
it might be problems getting opportunities too... the redskins ownership at one point in time refused to have any black players on its roster.... until they found out that the team couldn't win anything like that ;)
ted is getting older, but he's still good... sapp may have already past his prime though...