Updated: Discuss our Backup QB Situation (formerly Byron Leftwich)

You have a point, but keep in mind Colt was supposed to be the next top QB and then messed up his chances in college. He was playing (so I thought) for one of the big colleges. Then screws that up with getting into trouble. His play was exceptional at the school but they let him go due to his issues he had. Hawaii picked him up and he had to learn how to play in the "Run and Shoot" style of offense. He did well in that offense also. You can blame the QB but even the pro's had trouble with the "Run and Shoot." Simply look at Warren Moon always getting sacked while playing with the Oilers, Take a look at the Falcons of old, and even the Skins when they ran the "Run and Shoot" aka..."Fun and Gun."

I'm actually rooting for JC and hope he does well but every once and a while a player comes and knocks peoples socks off. Look at Tom Brady, Bret Favre, and last years Rookie QB's for the Ravens and Falcons. Heck Favre went to the Falcons first and they didn't like his throwing motion and felt he would be no good so they traded him to the Packers. He lit it up up there. I'm sure the Falcons felt stupid for doing that. Colt may turn out to be a dud or something special I just hope coach's know what they are doing and are not trying to change his throwing motions too much either(I thought it was mentioned Zorn wanted to fix the side arm throwing motion Colt has) cause that is what has brought him to this point. Now if it will allow him to throw the ball further then so be it but I feel when you start screwing up with something a player has done all his life and still has done pretty well for himself, don't change him. Changing him may take away his accuracy or speed on the ball, or how far he can throw it.

This post is kind of confusing. First off, Colt was not supposed to be the "next top QB." He was Matt Leinart's backup for most of his high school career, and was a walk-on at Colorado before getting kicked out for some drunken excursion involving frontal nudity and fondling of a coed. He redshirted the one year he was at Colorado. Not sure where you're getting your facts, but his play was not "exceptional." I don't think he even played a single snap at Colorado actually.

Second, what does some pro QB's initially struggling in the Run and Shoot have to do with Brennan's success running that system in college?

Third, comparing Brennan's potential to the unforseen success of Brady and Favre is like a needle in a haystack. The chances for any QB (let alone a current 3rd stringer) turning into the next Favre or Brady are very remote.

Sure, there is a chance Brennan could eventually be good. I guess I'm just not sure what you're trying to say here.

I move for a motion for closure on thread. All in favor say aye.

I move for a motion for closure on thread. All in favor say aye.

Here's what I propose:

There should be one thread and one thread only discussing our QB situation, be it starter or backup. And no new threads on the topic until there is some actual news to report.

I think the point is that a 3rd string QB playing well against 3rd string defenders doesn't mean much. It's better than him playing crappy against 3rd stringers I guess.

i hate that argument because it ignores the fact that Brennan also had other third stringers along side him. He had third stringers blocking for him. He had third stringers catching passes from him. Also you have to remember that in a preseason game, the starters usually arent trying that hard - their primary focus is not getting hurt. 3rd stringers, on the other hand, are guys fighting for jobs. They go all out and hold nothing back.

That said, the only thing you can really read into a pre-season performance is his comfortability in a system. Looking at our backups, by all appearances, Brennan was very comfortable and Collins wasnt. We'll see how they look in pre-season this coming year.

I move for a motion for closure on thread. All in favor say aye.
aye...

I said it once and I'll say it again, the only QB competition will be for the role of primary clipboard holder- Brennan or Collins. Although it would be kind of awkward to pay Collins $3M to be a 3rd stringer....

The sooner everyone around here realizes our QB situation right now is what it's going to be for 2009, the better.

Thank you for whoever modified this thread. And please let this be the end of the non-sense threads/comments that blindly pin the faults of the 8-8 season on JUST Jason Campbell.

I move for a motion for closure on thread. All in favor say aye.
Bipartisanship at its best....aye!

I said it once and I'll say it again, the only QB competition will be for the role of primary clipboard holder- Brennan or Collins. Although it would be kind of awkward to pay Collins $3M to be a 3rd stringer....

The sooner everyone around here realizes our QB situation right now is what it's going to be for 2009, the better.

You must have misread my post - i was comparing Collins and Brennan and I said last year Brennan looked more comfortable than Collins. I then said we would see how they looked in pre-season this year.

I didnt even hint about a QB competition for the #1 spot. I was referring to the fact that its likely Brennan could become the #2 this year. I didnt get to it, but by extension, i think that would mean we would say bye-bye to Collins...and as you pointed out, it would be rather awkward to pay 3M for a 3rd string QB so its highly likely that Collins will be let go if he loses the job. For this reason, i'm pretty sure we'll have another QB to push Collins for the job. Brennans Zorns hand-picked QB. Unless he regresses significantly, i can't see his job (as a backup) being in jeopardy this year.

You must have misread my post - i was comparing Collins and Brennan and I said last year Brennan looked more comfortable than Collins. I then said we would see how they looked in pre-season this year.

I didnt even hint about a QB competition for the #1 spot. I was referring to the fact that its likely Brennan could become the #2 this year. I didnt get to it, but by extension, i think that would mean we would say bye-bye to Collins...and as you pointed out, it would be rather awkward to pay 3M for a 3rd string QB so its highly likely that Collins will be let go if he loses the job. For this reason, i'm pretty sure we'll have another QB to push Collins for the job. Brennans Zorns hand-picked QB. Unless he regresses significantly, i can't see his job (as a backup) being in jeopardy this year.

No, I didn't misread your post. We're actually on the exact same page as far as the Brennan/Collins thing. I shouldn't have quoted you when I typed that response. My bad. I'll go fix it.