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Trample the Elderly 02-05-2009, 03:27 PM I assure you we'll see it time and again for the next two years.
You don't have to wait that long . . . . and another one.
Solis Senate Session Postponed in Wake of Husband's Tax Lien Revelations | 44 | washingtonpost.com (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/02/05/solis_senate_session_canceled.html?hpid=topnews)
CRedskinsRule 02-05-2009, 03:47 PM You don't have to wait that long . . . . and another one.
Solis Senate Session Postponed in Wake of Husband's Tax Lien Revelations | 44 | washingtonpost.com (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/02/05/solis_senate_session_canceled.html?hpid=topnews)
Trample, just using your note as a bounce point; What amazes me, Saden, is that since someone you agree with is now in the drivers seat, everything is cool and kosher. Me, I hope Obama can get the country on its feet, and do so in a way that truly reflects a change of principle and philosophy from the Clinton/Bush legacy of partisan politics-country be d**mnd. But I am far closer to Trample's point of view then Obama's (or Bush's for that matter). and all I see is the same tired arguments for the same failed policies (democrats with theirs republicans with theirs) and you, and many others cheering up a storm because it's your guys turn and not the others.
Saden, I know you won't respond, because every time I try to point out a bigger picture, you have pulled out a partisan phrase and responded to that point ignoring every main point in my posts.
Once more, my point here, is Obama is behaving like a normal politician, he has not changed the tenor or tone of DC, nor has he worked to the betterment of the country over his particular beliefs.
What he had done so far is - he has taken his beliefs and pushed forward with his agenda boldly following an election which was as much about Bush's failure and a fresh face in Obama as it was that the country suddenly turned to an extreme liberal agenda.
saden1 02-05-2009, 03:52 PM You don't have to wait that long . . . . and another one.
Solis Senate Session Postponed in Wake of Husband's Tax Lien Revelations | 44 | washingtonpost.com (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/02/05/solis_senate_session_canceled.html?hpid=topnews)
Huh?
saden1 02-05-2009, 03:57 PM Trample, just using your note as a bounce point; What amazes me, Saden, is that since someone you agree with is now in the drivers seat, everything is cool and kosher. Me, I hope Obama can get the country on its feet, and do so in a way that truly reflects a change of principle and philosophy from the Clinton/Bush legacy of partisan politics-country be d**mnd. But I am far closer to Trample's point of view then Obama's (or Bush's for that matter). and all I see is the same tired arguments for the same failed policies (democrats with theirs republicans with theirs) and you, and many others cheering up a storm because it's your guys turn and not the others.
Saden, I know you won't respond, because every time I try to point out a bigger picture, you have pulled out a partisan phrase and responded to that point ignoring every main point in my posts.
Once more, my point here, is Obama is behaving like a normal politician, he has not changed the tenor or tone of DC, nor has he worked to the betterment of the country over his particular beliefs.
What he had done so far is - he has taken his beliefs and pushed forward with his agenda boldly following an election which was as much about Bush's failure and a fresh face in Obama as it was that the country suddenly turned to an extreme liberal agenda.
No, you got it all wrong. I don't like some of the thing in the stimulus but even more so I loath the alternative plan put forth by the GOP. It is retarded. They don't even f'ing understand the domain problem or they do but they're in the "I hope he fails" boat.
The Problem:
1. People are being laid-off.
2. Unemployment climbing.
3. People aren't buying things.
4. Companies aren't making money.
5. Go back to step 1 and repeat.
GOP Solution:
1. Tax cut for people.
2. Tax cut for corporation.
3. Tax cut for small business.
4. Supply side economics will take care of the rest.
Truly handicapped.
CRedskinsRule 02-05-2009, 04:10 PM No, you got it all wrong. I don't like some of the thing in the stimulus but even more so I loath the alternative plan put forth by the GOP. It is retarded. They don't even f'ing understand the domain problem or they do but they're in the "I hope he fails" boat.
The Problem:
1. People are being laid-off.
2. Unemployment climbing.
3. People aren't buying things.
4. Companies aren't making money.
5. Go back to step 1 and repeat.
GOP Solution:
1. Tax cut for people.
2. Tax cut for corporation.
3. Tax cut for small business.
4. Supply side economics will take care of the rest.
Truly handicapped.
Wow, did you read the part I put in bold and underlined, because you didn't even respond to my point, which I tried to make clear. But never mind; apparently we are dooomed to petty grievances and false promises, the recriminations and worn out dogmas.
Trample the Elderly 02-05-2009, 04:15 PM Huh?
Didn't she have to fill out an application? Oh that's right only the little people pay taxes.
Actually my solution is to the right of the Republicans. Everyone but Corporations pay NO taxes. Corporations pay a flat 10%.
firstdown 02-05-2009, 04:37 PM When you have 36 GOP senators (http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&session=1&vote=00038) who don't believe in government spending (http://washingtonindependent.com/29076/its-all-part-of-my-stimulus-fantasy) as a means of economic recovery and threaten to filibuster the stimulus bill WTF are we going to talk about? They can play their games, if was Obama I would tell them go eat a hogmog and have them filibuster the bill.
If this was such a great bill why don't the Dem's just pass the bill without Rep. vote because I'm sure there are two Rep. that will vote for this bill. The reason is because this bill does not do squat and will fail and the Dems do not want to be the only party that pushed this pork through. This bill is sponsored by SmithField Foods the largest producer of pork sponsoring the largest bill of pork ever passed.
firstdown 02-05-2009, 04:41 PM No, you got it all wrong. I don't like some of the thing in the stimulus but even more so I loath the alternative plan put forth by the GOP. It is retarded. They don't even f'ing understand the domain problem or they do but they're in the "I hope he fails" boat.
The Problem:
1. People are being laid-off.
2. Unemployment climbing.
3. People aren't buying things.
4. Companies aren't making money.
5. Go back to step 1 and repeat.
GOP Solution:
1. Tax cut for people.
2. Tax cut for corporation.
3. Tax cut for small business.
4. Supply side economics will take care of the rest.
Truly handicapped.
GOP Solution:
1. Puts money back in the hands of people to spend money for goods which have to be made by people working.
2. Corporations have more money to produce goods and hire people.
3. Same as 2.
4. Yes supply side should kick in but hey atleast we have our money back in our hands and not in some other failing pork program.
After posting this I started thinking about Sadens post and I don't think the ROP plan call's for reducing Corporations taxes only small business and individuals.
dmek25 02-05-2009, 04:45 PM i cant believe you guys are willing to hand out the money, without any rules behind it? these C.E.O's have already proven that they know how to run these companies into the ground, but some around here are willing to hand them a check, and let them set their own compensation. what a joke. and i totally agree with saden on this. if they can find a better paying job, this is the American way. go for it
firstdown 02-05-2009, 04:54 PM i cant believe you guys are willing to hand out the money, without any rules behind it? these C.E.O's have already proven that they know how to run these companies into the ground, but some around here are willing to hand them a check, and let them set their own compensation. what a joke. and i totally agree with saden on this. if they can find a better paying job, this is the American way. go for it
We are against the goverment running the free market. I hope the banks tell uncle sam to shove the money. These congress men have shown they can run the goverment into the ground far worse then any of these CEO's and I laugh everytime I hear Obama and them complaining out this.
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