Not impressed with our defense

its fair, the bucs O was slow and planned against for a very long time. still its better to shut down bad O's than let them run you over, so i'll take the stats and run with them. if we can hold the eagles or the vikes down, that will make a huge statement. The D is looking like it'll be top five right now, and you can't even compare it to last year...

SO, D = great, but outsiders are looking for a statement against a big O threat, and i'm curious as to how well we hold up there too.

Is the Bucs offense that bad or is the Redskins aggresive style of defense made them look that bad? I remember two years ago when Gruden went to TB he was touted as a offense of genius!!!! well is everyone now saying he is a offense dud?

his WRs are much worse this year... and the O line hasn't clicked cause of changes there... they also have 20+ new players on their roster, so its a different team. no KM hurts, and keyshawn is actually not a bad WR either.. galloway dropped a couple and limped off the field.

The best teams beat the teams they're expected to beat and don't let up no matter what the level of competition. Now I'm not saying we're one of the best teams-yet-but we gave the kind of performance-at least defensively-that you have to give regardless of the competition.

The best teams beat the teams they're expected to beat and don't let up no matter what the level of competition. Now I'm not saying we're one of the best teams-yet-but we gave the kind of performance-at least defensively-that you have to give regardless of the competition.

right, i'm just wondering if a team like the vikes could beat the blitz and abuse our corners...

Obviously, they are bitter about Williams in Buffalo. So they take a dig. But it's a fair comment: the starting Buc offense didn't score a TD in preseason, and the were missing Galloway and Pittman. However, I am confident Williams will have a great D here. The problems in Buffalo were with the offense, not the D. They were ranked #2. I'm willing to guess that folks up there would love to have Williams as a coordinator.

We will be tested this year, and sometimes beaten, by good offenses that pick up the blitz or use misdirection/screens/dump-offs well. But we will also win games on sacks and turnovers. I doubt we'll crush a team as badly as we did Sunday, but this will be a high-ranked D. It's way to early to talk sh** about them,, even if your "bitter in Buffalo."

Low blow:
I might be wrong, but I think our STARTING defense did not give up a TD this preseason until the Rams game, which was our fourth game.
These Buffalo a-holes are just soar grapes because they lost the Jags. We beat a team (Buc's) that won the superbowl a few years ago. They lost to a very average team.
Jerry Sullivan did say one thing right in his article....Tom Brady is the playing like the real MVP of this league. If Brady continues his high level of play this year, he better get the MVP award or something is seriously wrong.


Granted it was preseason, but I think so far in 2004 I think our starting D has only given up 1 TD. Tampa Bay scored 0 points on our defesne. That feild goal was a result of special teams, cause they didnt even get a first down. Look at what our starting D did to Atlanta. I hate to use preseason games in my argument, but I really have nothing else. I dont care who we play, the difference between our Defense last year and this year is night and day.

JWsleep said it a bit better than I've been able to... his post is pretty much dead on with my opinion.

Is the Bucs offense that bad or is the Redskins aggresive style of defense made them look that bad? I remember two years ago when Gruden went to TB he was touted as a offense of genius!!!! well is everyone now saying he is a offense dud?
Ya. I didn't know that Gruden's offense wasn't a *real* offense.

Low Blow.

I agree with bridaman and cpayne, Gruden wins a SB and is hailed as an offensive guru and now his team struggles and it's "Tampa's offense is horrid". Give the respect where it's due, to our defense. Our guys made plays, and more importantly our defensive coordinator put them in position to make plays.

It's only one game, but so far the defense looks to be legit. Tons of pressure, guys coming free, forced fumbles, picks, it was a great night for the defense. The first of many, we all hope.