2009 Skins Off Season Plans Ideas, Draft and FA plus cuts

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BigHairedAristocrat
01-29-2009, 11:41 AM
It's so amazing now that the only real decision they're going to make is bringing in a big name RT. I cant ****ing belive this.

you dont know that. All you know is that JLC and one of his sources thinks the team will take a RT with their 1st pick. They have 3 other picks in the draft as of right now and will probably acquire more via trading down. Then theres the fact that the team has reportedly been interested in shopping Moss, Rogers, Montgommery, Betts, and other players.

Also, the article said the team has not rated potential free agents yet. When it does, it will identify free agents who would constitute upgrades over guys we currently have here. Even if we only go after "value guys" we can undoubtably find value free agents who constitute upgrades over our current players.

We have more than a month before free agency starts and more than 2 months before the draft. The team has just STARTED the process. They havent even begun to finalize the decisions they will make yet.

BigHairedAristocrat
01-29-2009, 11:43 AM
Dude don't be an idiot. Zorn was questioned about this for an entire press conference after the game and said he would only throw Moss back to return maybe once a game just for a change up from Randle El. He said there was no way Moss was going to be a regular return man.

That will likely change this year. Zorn was adamant about not wanting to make wholesale changes to our return game mid-season. He indicated that he would investigate doing so after the season. If Moss is still on roster opening day (which i highly doubt), ARE will not be returning punts. In fact, even if Moss is gone, the area will be addressed somewhere else. AREs last year of being the regular PR was 2008.

GMScud
01-29-2009, 11:50 AM
I wonder if it would be worth going after Stacy Andrews and/or Shayne Graham from Cincy. Both would fill needs, both are UFAs...

BigHairedAristocrat
01-29-2009, 12:11 PM
I wonder if it would be worth going after Stacy Andrews and/or Shayne Graham from Cincy. Both would fill needs, both are UFAs...

I would love to see us go after Graham but based on what JLC said, he would seem to be too "high profile"

redsk1
01-29-2009, 04:40 PM
Horton and Campbell are not untouchable. Both are expendable with low cap numbers and have trade value. Whether trading them is in the best interests of the team is another matter, and depends on whether they are more valuable to the team than they are in terms of trade value. Both will probably be kept, but they are by no means "untouchable."

The true "untouchables" on this team are the players who large amounts of money garaunteed to them - Portis, Jansen, Thomas, Samuels, Cooley, and Carter come to mind off the top of my head. And make no mistake, Jansen, Thomas, and Carter, and possibly Portis would all be cut if the team could do so without the team taking a significant cap hit. If Cooley had not just signed such a huge contract and trading him didnt involve the team taking a cap hit well north of 10M, we'd already be in discussion to trade him for a 1st rounder. This is a business and there is no such thing as loyalty between players and fans. When it comes to someone being "untouchable," Financials are the one and only thing that matters. You cant ignore them.

Cooley is untouchable and is not even worth mentioning. He's the face of the franchise basically now. 2 PB's in a row. Performs every week. What's not to like about Cooley? He's perhaps our best asset.

Yes, financials are a big part of it..maybe the biggest part of it, w/ the way our "FO" handles it's contracts. I got blasted a couple years ago b/c i made a point that it's eventually going to come back and bite us. It's starting to bite us. We can't get rid of old guys. I guess my point was if you could somehow get rid of certain old players for trades, picks, or just by cutting them, let's do it and move on.

warriorzpath
01-29-2009, 04:58 PM
I think if you start off determining who your players are - based on money first, then you are in trouble as a team. I understand that there's a balance and the salary cap does play an important part in it, but when you start ranking and determining player's values based first on how much they affect the cap, I think that your scale of judgment and decision-making doesn't fit with what you are trying to accomplish.

I guess it's a sign of the times when you start looking at the financial situation first.

Paintrain
01-29-2009, 05:55 PM
We should be prepared for this offseason to be very similar to last offseason, just without the draft picks. Not much FA activity, mostly the same stale, old roster and praying we make it thru OTA's and camp without many injuries.

Ruhskins
01-29-2009, 06:00 PM
We should be prepared for this offseason to be very similar to last offseason, just without the draft picks. Not much FA activity, mostly the same stale, old roster and praying we make it thru OTA's and camp without many injuries.

Much better than overpaying free agents that have bust written all over it or trading our draft picks away. Once again, the Redskins are not going to get out of the hole they dug themselves in two, three seasons ago with these overpriced free agents and contract re-structures. I'm just glad they are not doing this crap anymore.

Paintrain
01-29-2009, 06:18 PM
Much better than overpaying free agents that have bust written all over it or trading our draft picks away. Once again, the Redskins are not going to get out of the hole they dug themselves in two, three seasons ago with these overpriced free agents and contract re-structures. I'm just glad they are not doing this crap anymore.

I agree about overpaying older free agents and trading draft picks. Thanks to Gibbs we are about 3 more years away from building a competitive roster but it would have been nice to be able to address needs and shed contracts this offseason.

Ruhskins
01-29-2009, 06:20 PM
I agree about overpaying older free agents and trading draft picks. Thanks to Gibbs we are about 3 more years away from building a competitive roster but it would have been nice to be able to address needs and shed contracts this offseason.

True, I was of the mindset of slash and cut old players, but I think the cap gurus show that this is not possible.

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