Redskins "Low-balling" Hall (Allegedly)

Would you say the 12m guaranteed is even too high then or in line w/ Hall's value? What I mean is this another case of the FO actually overpaying a player (treating Hall like a FA LOL)?

... thanks for the explanation on Rogers but it raises another question: w/ Los wrapped up for another two years (during his prime btw) and at a relatively reasonable price why this talk of trading the kid?I have no idea what the going rate for a very young league average corner with potential will be the current economic climate, but I'm guessing that 12 million is not grossly overpaying for his services, especially if the contract extends to or past the time he's 30. 16 million...probably at that point, we're talking elite CB level, which Hall has never been.

And trading Rogers makes no logical sense, which means that I'm inclined to tie this one to Greg Blache (and reports back this). But I've never taken the Rogers rumors too seriously. He's a top ten NFL corner, he's not going anywhere in the immediate.

A year from now, we could be seriously shopping him, but I highly doubt we'll do it for anything but an obscene offer this year. The only player in free agency who could replace Rogers is Asomugha, and if the problem with Rogers is a money thing, well then...

What bugs me is when he wore the free Mike Vick shirt on that Monday night game right after the trial. Coach quit and he was traded... I was thinking that he would not fit "the mold" of the current players we have.

I'm pretty sure that was Roddy White.

People are talking about us signing Hall to a monster deal, but the numbers are pretty modest for an above average starting corner in this league, especially given some of the deals that have been dished out over the last two offseasons (not by us btw). I don't see this as anything to freak out over.

There is another angle to this I haven't seen discussed. Basically the bigger contract, especially guaranteed money, Hall receives the bigger the contract Rogers will expect/demand and I think we all realize Blache and the FO really isn't keen on giving Rogers big money. While they may like to give Hall more being that he'll sell tickets, jerseys etc the braintrust has to smart here. Also I would say Hall's negotiating position is relatively stronger than ours. Everyone knows that even if we somehow keep Springs, Los and Smoot as corners we're gonna be hurtin real soon (Springs injuries and Smoot general shittiness). And yeah maybe we can bring in another guy but none, save Asomugha, are big names like Hall who will add serious value to the franchise right?

I think Hall has to be resigned. If it comes down to cutting Springs completely to save space then show him the door... we need young, healthy talent.

Also have a question about the Los situation for GT or Schneed: would it be worthwhile to stampt the franchise tag on either Hall or Los (if it's even possible)?

I know that I'm not schneed or gt, but I can't see paying Rogers or Hall top 5 type money if they work this CBA thing out

Our 2 best defensive players are safeties .

Hrmmmmmmm

Hall asking price is very reasonable 16 mil compared to the 23 mil Chris Gamble got. Deangelo Hall is a top ten corner period, and he's asking for 16 mil which is generous given that he has been known to go higher. He's 25 in his prime while Rogers is freakin 28 and drafted a year later. Re sign Hall and wait one year for Rogers.

we need to keep him whatever it takes give him the money vinny you ignorant peabrain

While I want Vinny to re-sign Hall, I want it to be at a discount. He doesn't deserve anything that remotely approaches Asante Samuel money - he's not that good. And anyway, that's the price Hall must pay for being a knucklehead in Atlanta. He is somewhat of a risk, so I see this as a reasonable first offer. The minute the Danny overpays someone, we're quick to jump all over the FO. This type of prudence is a nice change if we can bring Hall in at a good value.

we need to keep him whatever it takes give him the money vinny you ignorant peabrain

Of course, if we give him whatever it takes and he tanks then you'll just call cerrato an ignorant peabrain for signing Hall

He definatly is no Asante. So dont compare them. But he is the guy with the youth and the skills that the Redskins need. I don't think he would lay down after being paid. Why would he? That can be said of any player. I'm not sure why were afraid of him. He's also not afraid to come off his man to make or assist in tackles. Personally I like what I see from Hall. Offer him 14M Sign him and move on.

Perhaps an easier question might be. If we do not do a deal with him, who will we look to the will be a better fit/value, etc?