Redskins "Low-balling" Hall (Allegedly)

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WaldSkins
01-26-2009, 06:17 PM
Hall's not that hard to replace though. I agree that it would have to be done, as Springs, Rogers, and Smoot will never make the trio they did at the beginning of 2007, especially since that trio included #21.

There are plenty of guys we could go after should Hall shun us, but why does that make sense for him? No one wants him, and everyone else could have had him for a tiny fraction of their cap last year, but no one was offering more than half a million to finish out the year.

Who out there is better then Hall as a free agent??

GTripp0012
01-26-2009, 06:30 PM
Who out there is better then Hall as a free agent??Asomugha is too pricey to be considered, but here are a few names that are at or near Hall's level who could be signed for less than Hall wants:

Dunta Robinson (Houston)
Daven Holly (Cleveland)
Bryant McFadden (Pittsburgh)
Jabari Greer (Buffalo)

Not an extensive list, exactly, but there are other options besides Hall for us.

WaldSkins
01-26-2009, 06:58 PM
Asomugha is too pricey to be considered, but here are a few names that are at or near Hall's level who could be signed for less than Hall wants:

Dunta Robinson (Houston)
Daven Holly (Cleveland)
Bryant McFadden (Pittsburgh)
Jabari Greer (Buffalo)

Not an extensive list, exactly, but there are other options besides Hall for us.

I would love to have Robinson, but we gotta figure out who is gonna play opposite him. Is Rogers staying? What's up with Springs? Do we draft a CB? Yea i'd like to see Hall stay because our secondary last year was the best part of this team. We can't go into the season with just Springs, Smoot, and Rogers. Too many injury concerns.

The Goat
01-26-2009, 07:41 PM
There is another angle to this I haven't seen discussed. Basically the bigger contract, especially guaranteed money, Hall receives the bigger the contract Rogers will expect/demand and I think we all realize Blache and the FO really isn't keen on giving Rogers big money. While they may like to give Hall more being that he'll sell tickets, jerseys etc the braintrust has to smart here. Also I would say Hall's negotiating position is relatively stronger than ours. Everyone knows that even if we somehow keep Springs, Los and Smoot as corners we're gonna be hurtin real soon (Springs injuries and Smoot general shittiness). And yeah maybe we can bring in another guy but none, save Asomugha, are big names like Hall who will add serious value to the franchise right?

I think Hall has to be resigned. If it comes down to cutting Springs completely to save space then show him the door... we need young, healthy talent.

Also have a question about the Los situation for GT or Schneed: would it be worthwhile to stampt the franchise tag on either Hall or Los (if it's even possible)?

A10sROCK
01-26-2009, 07:44 PM
Hall would be a good fit for this team. Why are people upset with trying to save some money on signing him? Are they really advocating the usual - 'overpay to underplay' mode of the Redskins FO?

If we sign Hall then we can look to drop Springs and/or Rogers.

Springs is very good but is missing more and more games per year. He won't restructure. He costs about $1 mill per game.

Rogers has never achieved his first round draft choice ranking. He's decent but has dropped more game-changing balls than I can count. He wants off this team. Trade him for a second rounder and move on.

Let us sign Hall and then we can comment on whether we pay too much.

Carnage
01-26-2009, 07:55 PM
What bugs me is when he wore the free Mike Vick shirt on that Monday night game right after the trial. Coach quit and he was traded... I was thinking that he would not fit "the mold" of the current players we have.

He was teammates with vick in college and pros. He remains loyal to his teammate. How could this negatively affect our locker room chemistry?

skinsfan_nn
01-26-2009, 07:56 PM
This isn't "low balling" it seems like a fair value for Halls services.

I applaud the FO for not overpaying for players. If you have to go up a bit, you meet in the middle some where.

If I recall correctly Hall himself said it wasn't all about the money, yea right! Show me don't tell me. He played well for a total of 7 games. This 'deal if true' appears to be a fair deal for both sides.

Carnage
01-26-2009, 07:56 PM
He was teammates with vick in college and pros. He remains loyal to his teammate. How could this negatively affect our locker room chemistry?

and free Mike Vick.

A10sROCK
01-26-2009, 07:59 PM
I wonder if this article wasn't a play by Hall's lawyer to help free up a few more dollars.

Signing Hall allows Vinny to drop either Spring or Rogers.

GMScud
01-26-2009, 08:02 PM
This isn't "low balling" it seems like a fair value for Halls services.

I applaud the FO for not overpaying for players. If you have to go up a bit, you meet in the middle some where.

If I recall correctly Hall himself said it wasn't all about the money, yea right! Show me don't tell me. He played well for a total of 7 games. This 'deal if true' appears to be a fair deal for both sides.

EXACTLY. It's not about the money, I feel at home here, the scheme fits what I do well, I'm close to my home in Virginia, blah blah blah...

If he walks now, we'll know he was full of ish up to ears.

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