The Goat
01-29-2009, 04:00 PM
Good call. I could see that.
Wonder if the same could happen w/ Marcus. Personally I was surprised to hear he wants to leave (if the rumor is true) and then thought maybe he wants to play for Williams.
skinsnut
01-29-2009, 04:18 PM
This pisses me off....
They should offer Carlos a contract first....he is steady.
If they offer Deangelo anything...it should be a 1 year deal to prove himself...I just dont trust him yet.
The real issue is where we choose to spend our money....at corner?....cmon...
Everyone says we need a major line overhaul...and I tend to agree.
Even Smoot could cover if we had a passrush and an offensive line that could keep the defense off the field...or better yet....a heavy lead.
Maybe I am wrong..maybe they are trying to secure Hall first so they can offer Carlos the same or $1 more to make up with him....but all I know is this.
Losing Carlos Rodgers would be like losing Antonio Pierce.
John Hop
01-29-2009, 04:28 PM
This pisses me off....
They should offer Carlos a contract first....he is steady.
If they offer Deangelo anything...it should be a 1 year deal to prove himself...I just dont trust him yet.
The real issue is where we choose to spend our money....at corner?....cmon...
Everyone says we need a major line overhaul...and I tend to agree.
Even Smoot could cover if we had a passrush and an offensive line that could keep the defense off the field...or better yet....a heavy lead.
Maybe I am wrong..maybe they are trying to secure Hall first so they can offer Carlos the same or $1 more to make up with him....but all I know is this.
Losing Carlos Rodgers would be like losing Antonio Pierce.
i think your right. at the MOST, offer deangelo a 2 year deal so you can see if he really matured or just was acting so he can get a contract next year.
GMScud
01-29-2009, 05:05 PM
Wonder if the same could happen w/ Marcus. Personally I was surprised to hear he wants to leave (if the rumor is true) and then thought maybe he wants to play for Williams.
That I think is less likely. They are set at MLB and LOLB with Vilma and Fujita. The other guy out of Nebraska, Scott Shanle, started all 16 games for them last year at ROLB and had around 90 tackles, plus he's younger than Marcus.
I never heard that Marcus wanted to leave. I love the dude's motor and heart, but he's lost a step, he's expensive, and he's just hurt too much.
This pisses me off....
They should offer Carlos a contract first....he is steady.
If they offer Deangelo anything...it should be a 1 year deal to prove himself...I just dont trust him yet.
The real issue is where we choose to spend our money....at corner?....cmon...
Everyone says we need a major line overhaul...and I tend to agree.
Even Smoot could cover if we had a passrush and an offensive line that could keep the defense off the field...or better yet....a heavy lead.
Maybe I am wrong..maybe they are trying to secure Hall first so they can offer Carlos the same or $1 more to make up with him....but all I know is this.
Losing Carlos Rodgers would be like losing Antonio Pierce.
Rogers still has a year on his deal, there's no need to extend him now.
Paintrain
01-29-2009, 05:51 PM
This pisses me off....
They should offer Carlos a contract first....he is steady.
If they offer Deangelo anything...it should be a 1 year deal to prove himself...I just dont trust him yet.
The real issue is where we choose to spend our money....at corner?....cmon...
Everyone says we need a major line overhaul...and I tend to agree.
Even Smoot could cover if we had a passrush and an offensive line that could keep the defense off the field...or better yet....a heavy lead.
Maybe I am wrong..maybe they are trying to secure Hall first so they can offer Carlos the same or $1 more to make up with him....but all I know is this.
Losing Carlos Rodgers would be like losing Antonio Pierce.
Wow, that's as big of an overstatement as I've seen in a long time. Rogers isn't a top 20 CB in the NFL. He had a decent half of a season and all of the sudden he's one of the greats in the game? He's got the WORST hands of any CB I've ever seen. He's decent in coverage but at best he's an excellent #2 CB, he's not in the class with the elite #1 CB in the league. Hall is a major upgrade from Rogers.
vallin21
01-29-2009, 06:02 PM
This pisses me off....
They should offer Carlos a contract first....he is steady.
If they offer Deangelo anything...it should be a 1 year deal to prove himself...I just dont trust him yet.
The real issue is where we choose to spend our money....at corner?....cmon...
Everyone says we need a major line overhaul...and I tend to agree.
Even Smoot could cover if we had a passrush and an offensive line that could keep the defense off the field...or better yet....a heavy lead.
Maybe I am wrong..maybe they are trying to secure Hall first so they can offer Carlos the same or $1 more to make up with him....but all I know is this.
Losing Carlos Rodgers would be like losing Antonio Pierce.
You're serious?
What is it that you don't trust about Hall. It can't be his hands, or his coverage ability. Carlos Rogers is probably not even in the top 25 at the CB position. When you get benched for a guy who plays 4 games per season and a CB who you got off waivers in freakin November I think thats telling you something dude.
SmootSmack
01-29-2009, 06:26 PM
That I think is less likely. They are set at MLB and LOLB with Vilma and Fujita. The other guy out of Nebraska, Scott Shanle, started all 16 games for them last year at ROLB and had around 90 tackles, plus he's younger than Marcus.
I never heard that Marcus wanted to leave. I love the dude's motor and heart, but he's lost a step, he's expensive, and he's just hurt too much.
Vilma isn't a lock to come back, though it's likely. And the Saints are definitely looking for another linebacker. They have cap issues though, so it will likely come via the draft.
GMScud
01-29-2009, 06:33 PM
Vilma isn't a lock to come back, though it's likely. And the Saints are definitely looking for another linebacker. They have cap issues though, so it will likely come via the draft.
Yeah, we all know how G.Williams loves to have that stub MLB to quarterback his defense. I suppose most D-Coordinators do, but still.
tryfuhl
01-30-2009, 12:15 AM
You're serious?
What is it that you don't trust about Hall. It can't be his hands, or his coverage ability. Carlos Rogers is probably not even in the top 25 at the CB position. When you get benched for a guy who plays 4 games per season and a CB who you got off waivers in freakin November I think thats telling you something dude.
Interesting insight.