NFL Rumor Central: Does Vick have a future in Frisco?

You now what's really funny is eveyones values. Some are stead fast and do not want any one with a marred past. Good for them. They have set high values. Maybe too high maybe not. Others would hire a drug lord. lol.

Vick kills an animal and goes to jail and awaits reinstatement. Pacman has people shot ...with a gun....in order to kill....and he gets reinstated and people are fine with him playing. Whether with their team or someone elses. I think I would rather take back the man who hurt the animal over trying to take another human beings life but those are my values.

In any case if we are going to say Vick is a monster and can't change then we might as well not let any of the other prisoners go either. I mean who wants a pediphile on the streets or a murderer, or a theif, or perhaps a rapist. If we are not going to give people a second chance then we better start building more prisons in everyones back yard to house everyone.

If we as a society are not willing to make sure he gets the counceling and perhaps be a spokesman or speak about what he did wrong in order to help stop this very act from accuring again and humbling him then where do you think he's going to go right back to in order to make money again?

Now I'm the last anyone would want to call a bible thumper but for those of you who hold high morals....

To open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me” (Acts 26:18 (http://www.allaboutgod.com/truth/acts-26.htm#18)).

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Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you” (Colossians 3:13 (http://www.allaboutgod.com/truth/colossians-3.htm#13)).

again I'm the last who should be called a bible thumper for I hardly go to church at all unless dragged by family but I do believe we as a society should be finding other ways to punish evil besides simply putting people in prison and not teaching them society norms, values and getting them counceling for their actions. I agree there is a % of the population that will not or can not be changed but to simply say "yea he may have learned a lesson but forget about giving him a chance" is obserd. If all busineses looked at Vick this way then how is he going to support himself or his family? I guess we should be saying thats his problem, he should have thought about it ahead of time?

I say reinstate him. Make him give a portion of his money to animal rights organizations, and force him to do commercials to humble him. Keep him on a tight leash as they did Pacman and Vicks own actions will speak louder then words. If he volunteered his services to an animal rights organization then perhaps some would change their way of thinking about him.

Wow that's quite a post SBXVII. Personally I don't think Vick should have went to prison in the first place. But now that he has, if he were to be reinstated he should have the same rights as every other player in the NFL. Otherwise he served his sentance in vain. To force him to give a portion of his money or to make commercials is still treating him like a felon and to admit that he is different and outside of the "NFL Standard" He payed for his crime.

As far as Pac Man or OJ Simpson or any felon I feel the same way. They have the right to make a living. Just not in the NFL. IMO

Nothing wrong with being called a Bible thumper Brother
John 3:16

^ true and if they can go into there and change their ways and be good citizens then good for them.

^ true and if they can go into there and change their ways and be good citizens then good for them.

Fair enough.

44, I'm not sure what else Vick went to school for? Hopefully he did not go for basketweaving to simply be able to play ball but if he did then society is saying we are not going to allow you to utilize the only talent you have. and this happens to many "felons" when they have to fill out an aplication that asks if they were ever convicted of a felony. It used to be felons could go to construction work or some type of manual labor after being convicted and still make ends meet but even now I'm seeing more of them not getting hired simply due to that marr on their record.

The NFL is not the Gov. or church body. It's not the Pope mobile and should kick off anyone who has committed a sin. It's a sport. A game. Entertainment. No different then watching Lost or your lady friend/wife/girlfriend watching a soap opera, or watching a symphany play. Simple entertainment. I do agree they are role models but we as parents should be teaching our kids who they should look up to not blindly allowing our kids to pick truely sick individuals. I really don't want my child to think the only way to get into the media is to kill animals or shoot people. I don't want him to think the only way to make big money is to play football. I'd like to think he has picked a player due to his talent and Characteristics. Should that player let him down as Vick has done alot of our youth I would hope my kids would pick another person but still respect what talent Vick had or has.

Now if his only talent was to breed dogs then I would have issues with him going back to breeding dogs. Football has nothing to do with his side venture of breeding and fighting dogs. No different then Michael Jorden and his betting. He was still a great player and probably could still run circles around some in the league. What if Vick decided to hang up his cleats but wanted to get into coaching? What if he said he would like to start at the bottom and learn how to coach.

As for having to give money to charity.....yes he has paid his crime but what if the NFL commissioner said I'll reinstate you if you give a portion to charity and do infomertials. At this point he's given an option. Give and play or don't and don't play. but by doing so it allows Vick to come back and it makes the NFL look good as being animal friendly and also punishing Vick and forcing him to humble himself. The only concern the Commish will have is how will this make the NFL look. Can he bring back a huge talent and still make the NFL look good? If not then I bet the Commish says no way for reinstatement.

I for one, want to see vick back in the league. I know he had his problems, but hey its not like he killed a human being. Now i dont like that he helped in the dog fighting bussiness, i love dogs! but funny thing about all this is it got more publicity than as if he killed someone. So im willing to give him another chance, i wish him the best of luck and i hope he can become a better Qb.

Do I think Vick should come to our team. No. If Zorn felt he needed him to get his scheme across then so be it but I always viewed Vick as a one man show. If you could stop him you stopped the team. He was not the pocket passer everyone wanted him to be. Yes he would be an upgrade to our situation but if we are looking for a team player and pocket passer then Vick is not it. I give the Falcons as an example. With Vick they did good, they did fairly well. Look what happened to the team after he got locked up. They all worked together as a team and supported the new rookie QB and they went to the playoffs.

SBXVII. Respected, maybe I hold the NFL to a higher standard than I should. Maybe it has to do with the way I viewed the NFL as a child growing up. And now having children of my own. Maybe I feel the NFL represents one of the last true American standard for moral sports entertainent. I may also be viewing it with bias as I watch corruption infiltradtw our society and standards being lowered and excepted. But in a sport were there are fines for celebrating in the endzone after making a touchdown because it taunts and disrespects. Where do we draw the line?

Dexter Manley was banned from ever returning to the NFL because of drug use on himself. I could argue I'd rather have a guy with a drug problem play than a animal killer.

There needs to be standards thats all im saying. Vick went to college I didn't. I'm doing ok living paycheck to paycheck. Raising 4 kids in an apartment. I used to make over 100k a year before a brain injury. Things happen. Society ows us nothing. You can still work construction as a past felon. He'll be fine. If he chooses too. He probably will get back in the NFL anyway. If he does, good for him.

I just don't think those of us that dont want him should be called dumbass. Post#2. Other than that I respect his opinion

Before anyone gets all bent out of shape about Vick possibly coming back think about this... There is a player in the NFL (Little) that killed another human being, was found guilty of this crime, and was allowed to play (and is still playing). Pacman Jones' actions may have led to someone end up paralyzed for the rest of their life. Heck, even Ray Lewis was involved (and got acquitted) in a shooting that I believed ended up with someone dead. I'm not justifying what Vick did, he deserved to go to jail, have his career ruined, and lose all his money. Now if he wants to return to the NFL, and the league lets him, so be it.

SBXVII. Respected, maybe I hold the NFL to a higher standard than I should. Maybe it has to do with the way I viewed the NFL as a child growing up. And now having children of my own. Maybe I feel the NFL represents one of the last true American standard for moral sports entertainent. I may also be viewing it with bias as I watch corruption infiltradtw our society and standards being lowered and excepted. But in a sport were there are fines for celebrating in the endzone after making a touchdown because it taunts and disrespects. Where do we draw the line?

Dexter Manley was banned from ever returning to the NFL because of drug use on himself. I could argue I'd rather have a guy with a drug problem play than a animal killer.

There needs to be standards thats all im saying. Vick went to college I didn't. I'm doing ok living paycheck to paycheck. Raising 4 kids in an apartment. I used to make over 100k a year before a brain injury. Things happen. Society ows us nothing. You can still work construction as a past felon. He'll be fine. If he chooses too. He probably will get back in the NFL anyway. If he does, good for him.

I just don't think those of us that dont want him should be called dumbass. Post#2. Other than that I respect his opinion

Agreed. Which is why I said everyones values are different. Cause I don't think everyone who thinks he needs to be banned is a dumbass either or should be called that. But I do believe when it comes to sports/Entertainment we need to lighten up a little. If we were talking federal gov. I would agree whole heartedly he needs to be banned but from a sport perspective....it's only a sport. nothing more.

I haven't insulted anyone, I never said that what he did was not awful and that he didn't deserve his time. But its okay for Pac Man to have a human being shot at to play ?? And this is with Pac Man getting chance after chance. I'm a huge Vick fan as an athlete who I think is a great addition to any team. He did his time, he deserves atleast an opportunity to play and show that he still can play. Even if it isn't at QB, who cares he still can play. I stand by what I said before and he should and will play again for whoever wants him.