Valleyranchgirl
01-22-2009, 08:46 PM
What is Bruce Allen's resume like exactly?
Bruce Allen sucks he was more of a problem in Tampa than Gruden with his QB collection IMO. I stay in Tampa so everyone here was celebrating last week when both of them got fired.
44ever
01-22-2009, 08:53 PM
Personally I think I would rather wait a year, see how Vinny does, pray he doesn't give up any of next years picks and then if he fails go after a guy like Eric DeCosta during next years offseason, all the while promising him full autonomy over football operations. Either way there's very little chance of Bruce Allen replacing Vinny short of a tradgedy. Knock on wood.
Agree
SBXVII
01-22-2009, 09:29 PM
Bruce Allen sucks he was more of a problem in Tampa than Gruden with his QB collection IMO. I stay in Tampa so everyone here was celebrating last week when both of them got fired.
That maybe but atleast he has the Bucs 40 something Mill under the CAP. Every year Vinny has us approximatly 10 Mill over and we have to work wonders to get under then mortgage our future on over the hill players.
Carnage
01-22-2009, 09:52 PM
How many draft picks will this cost us?
SmootSmack
01-22-2009, 09:59 PM
That maybe but atleast he has the Bucs 40 something Mill under the CAP. Every year Vinny has us approximatly 10 Mill over and we have to work wonders to get under then mortgage our future on over the hill players.
Allen is supposedly good with money, but them being so far under the cap has more to do with the Glazer unwillingness to spend money than any magic Allen has. I think most GMs would prefer an owner willing to spend money
SmootSmack
01-22-2009, 10:04 PM
frankly, he has to be an upgrade, i know that sounds horrible and void of rationality, but really, Vinny has to cede some authority, his system hasn't worked- he's never fielded a team with a LEGITIMATE chance at winning a superbowl (eking into the playoffs doesn't count in my mind).
You're right. I mean let's look at the past four years
2004: 5-11
2005: 11-5 (eliminated in Wild Card round)
2006: 4-12
2007: 9-7 (lose 3 of last 4 but still make the playoffs...only to get eliminated in WC round
2008: 9-7 (lose last 4 games to miss the playoffs)
Oh wait...that's the Bucs under Bruce Allen
BrunellMVP?
01-22-2009, 10:09 PM
You're right. I mean let's look at the past four years
2004: 5-11
2005: 11-5 (eliminated in Wild Card round)
2006: 4-12
2007: 9-7 (lose 3 of last 4 but still make the playoffs...only to get eliminated in WC round
2008: 9-7 (lose last 4 games to miss the playoffs)
Oh wait...that's the Bucs under Bruce Allen
I frankly don't believe we'd settle for someone who doesn't have a name or isn't a bona fide rising star...so if Bruce Allen doesn't fit the bill (which it sounds like he doesn't) then he isn't our guy...
also, the record above looks pretty similar to skin's record (in fact its the exact same!) - and i'll bet the bucs didn't lead the league (top 3) in salary every year...
Redskins Record
2008 : 8-8
2007: 9-7
2006: 5-11
2005: 10-6
2004: 6-10
SmootSmack
01-22-2009, 10:13 PM
I think Allen's a decent executive and if you all you want is change for the sake of change then he's fine, but if you want change for the sake of improvement then you can do a lot better than Allen
I think Allen's a decent executive and if you all you want is change for the sake of change then he's fine, but if you want change for the sake of improvement then you can do a lot better than Allen
I completely agree.
Hell if all we want is change for the sake of change I want to throw my name into the hat. Give me a call, Danny. Wait til you see my Madden franchise.
Valleyranchgirl
01-22-2009, 10:32 PM
Allen is supposedly good with money, but them being so far under the cap has more to do with the Glazer unwillingness to spend money than any magic Allen has. I think most GMs would prefer an owner willing to spend money
They are mad cheap. No play makers on offense. Their offense is just lousy and it is not just the playcalling that made it so bad it was also because of the lack of talent they failed to pick up. I heard the owners are looking for a buyer.