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The Goat 03-13-2009, 04:30 PM Maybin seems to make more sense than Cushing at No. 13 though. If we swing at Maybin we might miss really, really hard, at it would be costly no doubt. But it would make more sense than watching Cushing struggle through injuries and McIntosh-type production for the better part of the next five years while our defense gradually declines.
The gradual decline of a defense built like ours is inevitable anyway. I'm just really hoping that we can get some pass rushers so we can take advantage of having Haynesworth's best years here in our defense. He's not going to get any better than he is right now, so his biggest impact to our defense is going to come this year. If we're not a top five defense this year, we're in lots of trouble (thanks, DHall contract!).
Hear u on the pass rush but I hope we can manufacture more of it w/ an upgrade at OLB and some creativity within our current players. Chris Wilson should get more opps coming off RDE for one thing. A SLB who can get after the passer would then yield a three prong attack then. I like your thinking on a 4-3, 3-4 tweener who can attack as a pass rusher.
warriorzpath 03-13-2009, 04:42 PM How do you figure he's not a 1st rounder if you haven't really seen him play?
I have, but very little. What I also tried to do is watch C. Matthews's play in the Maualuga and Cushing videos. But from what I gather, he's not 1st round material. Disagree with it or not, because it's only my opinion - and only time will tell if i'm right.
warriorzpath 03-13-2009, 04:46 PM Sure, you'd take Orakpo over Johnson, but the chances are Orakpo goes in the top 10 and the Skins won't have a shot at him. And actually, if Orakpo were to slip to 13, I'd use it as leverage to move back on favorable terms.
But I wouldn't take Orakpo even if he were available. I wouldn't take any DE in this draft class at 13, from what i've seen.
SmootSmack 03-13-2009, 04:49 PM I don't know that any of the USC linebackers really stand out up above the others for me. I like them all, but not sure I like any of them at 13 (I guess Maualuga more than the other two)
What scares me about Maybin and Brown is I can't figure out if they're better as LBs or as DEs? In a 3-4, or a 4-3?
I think I still want Oher (unless by some miracle Curry or Monroe falls), if we stay at 13
But Tyson Jackson is slowly creeping up the board and he would be the perfect fit for this defense.
Still, we should draft an OL
GTripp0012 03-13-2009, 05:04 PM I don't know that any of the USC linebackers really stand out up above the others for me. I like them all, but not sure I like any of them at 13 (I guess Maualuga more than the other two)
What scares me about Maybin and Brown is I can't figure out if they're better as LBs or as DEs? In a 3-4, or a 4-3?
I think I still want Oher (unless by some miracle Curry or Monroe falls), if we stay at 13
But Tyson Jackson is slowly creeping up the board and he would be the perfect fit for this defense.
Still, we should draft an OLThe one thing I really like about Jackson is that in a non-Blache defense in the post-Griffin era, he actually could solve the DT issue next to Haynesworth. He could get some nice pressure on the QB from that position. Jackson would be a nice long-term pick, a smarter pick than Maybin who fits our immediate needs well.
I think Maybin is a fit in only a system like ours that likes to send 5+ guys after the passer on most plays. He's going to have to be a 4-3 linebacker, or an inside/outside hybrid LB in the 3-4 (like Vrabel or Suggs) if he's got any shot in the NFL.
Brown is smallish, but I think he plays in any scheme. A 4-3 team could play him at end or at OLB and get production, and a 3-4 team could play him at any LB spot. He's gone in the top ten picks though.
WaldSkins 03-18-2009, 08:22 PM But I wouldn't take Orakpo even if he were available. I wouldn't take any DE in this draft class at 13, from what i've seen.
What if we call Orakpo a LB, would you take him then at 13?
warriorzpath 03-18-2009, 09:20 PM What if we call Orakpo a LB, would you take him then at 13?
You can call him a LB, but what I see is a DE.
That Guy 03-19-2009, 12:20 AM we'd take orakpo to be a DE, but he won't be there.
maybin bulked up to look like an NFL DE and it slowed him way down, so i'd only look at him as a LB... unless you want a 240lb DE (and he's not dwight freeney).
SmootSmack 03-19-2009, 12:25 AM we'd take orakpo to be a DE, but he won't be there.
maybin bulked up to look like an NFL DE and it slowed him way down, so i'd only look at him as a LB... unless you want a 240lb DE (and he's not dwight freeney).
Well Orakpo said we talked to him about playing the SAM so...
Maybin slowed down from what?
53Fan 03-19-2009, 12:32 AM I'm not endorsing it but, has anyone given any thought to the push we'd get up the middle if we drafted Peria Jerry to play next to Haynesworth? Just a thought.
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