If Nothing Changes Come Draft Day, Who Would You Draft

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That Guy
03-13-2009, 02:34 AM
cushing is definitely not the safest bet... he's the good workout low college production guy with an injury risk.

an23dy
03-13-2009, 04:02 AM
1 Rey Maualuga
3 Mitch King DE/DT Iowa (fits our scheme as a LDE)
5 OL
6 OL

Maybe King is a guy that can fall to the 5th round in which case I would take an OL. A lotta people won't like that we keep addressing the defense, but I feel King and Maualuga are good football players that will be around a long time. Also 3 of the 4 conference championship teams were top 5 defenses. Defense wins championships. Please no Cardinals or Colts references, Manning and Warner/Fitz/Boldin are rare and their D was solid in their runs, especially Indy.

SmootSmack
03-13-2009, 08:04 AM
I think Andre Smith would definitely open up space for Portis at right tackle. Orakpo (the big winner of the combine hype) is good, but he's not a game-breaker. And more of a DE rather than a LB. The redskins can make better use of the 13th pick with a player that can make a bigger impact.

I watched some tape on Monroe and he is definitely worth a top 5 pick with his pass protection skills. I haven't seen much of Jason Smith to make a good judgment yet. C Mack is solid, but not 1st round talent with the videos that I've seen.

DT Raji is a beast and is definitely the top player in the draft.


Watched Rey Maualuga and Brian Cushing - and it looks like Maualuga has better instincts and football IQ. I don't know if Cushing belongs in the 1st or 2nd round yet. LB James Laurinaitis definitely is overrated by some experts and is not 1st round talent, let alone high 1st round IMO- I think he stays stationary too long when anticipating the rb instead of moving forward towards the rb to tackle. LB Aaron Curry is good but shouldn't be as high as some have him in the 1st round.

What about Clay Matthews?

SC Skins Fan
03-13-2009, 09:46 AM
I am not sure if others have seen this YouTube site, but it has extended TV highlights of most of the top prospects in this year's draft. So you can actually watch the guys play rather than relying on talking heads to tell you what to think.

YouTube - DraftParty's Channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/DraftParty)

I don't know if that was the only good 10 minutes of film on Michael Johnson, but I really like the way that guy looks. He has athleticism, quickness, and size. I know Kiper is saying he might fall to the second but he looks better than that to me. I'd like to watch the whole Virginia tape and see him go against Eugene Monroe for a whole game. I also really like Everette Brown, but I think Johnson has the better body type to do the things that Blache asks his ends to do in the run game. If they decide to go DE I wouldn't mind taking Johnson from the little that I have now seen of him, even at #13 and even though it would make Kiper's head explode (or maybe especially because it would make his head explode).

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At tackle, if it comes down to Andre Smith or Michael Oher, I like Oher (as I said in another thread).

At LB, if it comes down to Cushing or Maualuga, I'll take Maualuga (and I was hoping to like Cushing better since he would fill an immediate need at SLB). Maualuga seems to play at a high intensity and attacks the football. He kind of looks like London Fletcher. I guess you would worry about how he would match up with more athletic NFL tight ends if he had to play the SAM for a few years until Fletcher retires/leaves but we have had the liability for some time now. He would certainly provide a strong run defender and just looks like a better football player than Cushing. I'd actually be pretty upset if the Skins went with Cushing because there are a number of guys who look better even if SLB is a hole that needs filling.

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SC Skins Fan
03-13-2009, 10:12 AM
And if the Skins could drop down to the early to mid-20's, pick up a 2nd round pick, and nab Michael Johnson and, say, Jamon Meredith I would be loving it.

Potential trade partners by the draft value chart numbers (the likelihood of some of these seems remote).


Philadelphia (picks 21 and 53 - 1170; pick 13 - 1150)
Minnesota (picks 22 and 54 - 1140; pick 13 - 1150)
New England (picks 23 and 47 - 1190; pick 13 and 5th - approx. 1185.5) or (picks 23, 58, and 4th - approx. 1134; pick 13 - 1150)
Atlanta (picks 24, 55, and 4th - approx. 1142; pick 13 - 1150)
Miami (picks 26 and 44 - 1160; pick 13 - 1150 ... plus kick to Cerrato's groin for having to drop 13 spots to get back pick 44)

Obviously other scenarios could exist, but those are the most obvious. To my eye Minnesota looks like the ideal partner if there is someone at 13 that they covet. I wonder about the ability to deal with Philadelphia, New England, or Miami since they all likely value their 2nd's too highly to do any of those trades. At least we have a history with Atlanta from last year so maybe doing another draft day deal would be easier.

Full round-by-round order for 2009 NFL Draft (http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d80eef17e&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true)

SC Skins Fan
03-13-2009, 10:14 AM
What about Clay Matthews?

The only film I could find on YouTube was a video that some guy had taken from his TV of about three plays that Matthews made this year. From those three plays he looked better than Cushing but, you know, rather limited sample size. I think I'd probably take Rey ahead of him.

bigant
03-13-2009, 10:37 AM
we need an OLB or and DE come on guys can,t you see this. we have really nobody at those spots....

SC Skins Fan
03-13-2009, 10:43 AM
we need an OLB or and DE come on guys can,t you see this. we have really nobody at those spots....

Can't you see that many people have discussed players at those positions? Read the thread.

freddyg12
03-13-2009, 11:00 AM
And if the Skins could drop down to the early to mid-20's, pick up a 2nd round pick, and nab Michael Johnson and, say, Jamon Meredith I would be loving it.

Potential trade partners by the draft value chart numbers (the likelihood of some of these seems remote).


Philadelphia (picks 21 and 53 - 1170; pick 13 - 1150)
Minnesota (picks 22 and 54 - 1140; pick 13 - 1150)
New England (picks 23 and 47 - 1190; pick 13 and 5th - approx. 1185.5) or (picks 23, 58, and 4th - approx. 1134; pick 13 - 1150)
Atlanta (picks 24, 55, and 4th - approx. 1142; pick 13 - 1150)
Miami (picks 26 and 44 - 1160; pick 13 - 1150 ... plus kick to Cerrato's groin for having to drop 13 spots to get back pick 44)
Obviously other scenarios could exist, but those are the most obvious. To my eye Minnesota looks like the ideal partner if there is someone at 13 that they covet. I wonder about the ability to deal with Philadelphia, New England, or Miami since they all likely value their 2nd's too highly to do any of those trades. At least we have a history with Atlanta from last year so maybe doing another draft day deal would be easier.

Full round-by-round order for 2009 NFL Draft (http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d80eef17e&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true)

great post & I agree, the vikes seem like the most likely. If they think they're 1 player away, they would trade up. They might be interested in a wr or qb, though those positions are not rookie high impacts.

I doubt though that they would really give us 22 & 54. I think 22 & a 3rd is more likely and to me that's still worth it.

freddyg12
03-13-2009, 11:04 AM
I am not sure if others have seen this YouTube site, but it has extended TV highlights of most of the top prospects in this year's draft. So you can actually watch the guys play rather than relying on talking heads to tell you what to think.

YouTube - DraftParty's Channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/DraftParty)

I don't know if that was the only good 10 minutes of film on Michael Johnson, but I really like the way that guy looks. He has athleticism, quickness, and size. I know Kiper is saying he might fall to the second but he looks better than that to me. I'd like to watch the whole Virginia tape and see him go against Eugene Monroe for a whole game. I also really like Everette Brown, but I think Johnson has the better body type to do the things that Blache asks his ends to do in the run game. If they decide to go DE I wouldn't mind taking Johnson from the little that I have now seen of him, even at #13 and even though it would make Kiper's head explode (or maybe especially because it would make his head explode).

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At tackle, if it comes down to Andre Smith or Michael Oher, I like Oher (as I said in another thread).

At LB, if it comes down to Cushing or Maualuga, I'll take Maualuga (and I was hoping to like Cushing better since he would fill an immediate need at SLB). Maualuga seems to play at a high intensity and attacks the football. He kind of looks like London Fletcher. I guess you would worry about how he would match up with more athletic NFL tight ends if he had to play the SAM for a few years until Fletcher retires/leaves but we have had the liability for some time now. He would certainly provide a strong run defender and just looks like a better football player than Cushing. I'd actually be pretty upset if the Skins went with Cushing because there are a number of guys who look better even if SLB is a hole that needs filling.

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I think E.Brown is the real deal, smart guy & great athlete. I can't say the same about Johnson's smarts (don't know), but he's got the athletic upside. There's no way at this point that Johnson is off the board before Brown. There is a lot of negative scouting on MJ. If he's there in the 2nd & we have a pick it might be worth the risk. If he falls all the way to the 3rd, which I believe could happen, I think we'd have to take him.

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