RI: What Moves Will Offseason Bring?

I'd be happy with a low 1st, a 2nd, and two 3rd round picks (we'd be getting the low 1st and 3rd from trading down).

according to the trade chart, our pick is worth 1150 points. Assuming the chart was followed, the only situation where we would ONLY get a lower 1st rounder and an additional 3rd is if we traded back from 13 to 16. If we go back any further, we're talking about getting a 1st and a 2nd or a 1st, 3rd and 4th.

In all likelyhood, we will attempt to trade back multiple times unless there is a specific player in the top 20 we are targeting. I think our goal is to accumulate as many 2nd and 3rd round picks as we can. Beyond that, the draft is a total crap shoot. Youre not looking for 1st year starter, so think theres much difference than a 4th round pick and a 7th round pick IMO. The big thing becomes not what a player did in college, but how coachable he is. The future of players taken in rounds 4-7 is more dependant on the quality of the teams coaching staff than anything else. Of course, there are always exceptions, but i think its a rule that generally proves true.

Taylor would happily restructure, I'm just not sure he'd do it for the Redskins


Maybe if the chances of a deep playoff appearance existed I'd think there would be a chance. In this case though, I'd say the Pesci "F- You, Pay Me!" line would apply.

And for a team that doesn't look to be too competitive in the coming year...on the basis that the consensus is we almost need a whole new OL & DL which is more than 10 positions, at the least it's 6 positions which is still a lot to fill in one year.


I think that is a reason that Portis is so miffed. Saying we need get help on OL & DL is pretty much saying that you are rebuilding. Portis is close to his peak, in front or behind, and his career can't afford a rebuilding effort.

Well it's obvious that we don't need to go after any Wide Receivers and Tight Ends. I hope to God Vinny doesn't waste another draft pick on a punter or kicker. Get one of those on the FA market.
If Vinny doesn't address the O & D lines then next year will be yet another wasted season. Also getting a LB somewhere in the middle rounds is probably a must.
If they can re-sign Taylor for a lot less money, then I'd let Washington go and use Taylor as a roving LB.
Remember, we have The Little Danny and Vinny running the Circus so anything can happen with these two clowns.

Well it's obvious that we don't need to go after any Wide Receivers and Tight Ends. I hope to God Vinny doesn't waste another draft pick on a punter or kicker. Get one of those on the FA market.
If Vinny doesn't address the O & D lines then next year will be yet another wasted season. Also getting a LB somewhere in the middle rounds is probably a must.
If they can re-sign Taylor for a lot less money, then I'd let Washington go and use Taylor as a roving LB.
Remember, we have The Little Danny and Vinny running the Circus so anything can happen with these two clowns.

If Taylor does not agree to a pay cut you would still keep him at $8.5M?
I wouldn't.

Taylor has a contract. He's not restructuring. Why should he? To help his team? Why doesn't everyone on the team take a cut? Makes no sense. Hes a business man as well He comes out this season 100% and he will make a impact. But I don't see him risking injury for a 8-8 team. So not sure if he will give 100% unless he sees a post season brewing. I think it's up to the FO to find a way around the financials and still fill in the gaps with strategic drafts and FA. Not Taylors job or financial responsability.

And is anyone else getting tired of the Danny Vinny comments? Things are frustrating enough. Can't trade Dan or Vinny let's move on.

I agree with Smoot on the restructure statement

the only motivation for a player like Taylor to restructure is if he still wants to play football and realizes that NO ONE will pay him the money that he is currently due on his contract. If Taylor felt like the redskins would cut him, and no one else would want him (or pay him what we were offereing), then its to his advantage to take a paycut and stay. Otherwise, he could hit the free market, and his value would only go down.

the only motivation for a player like Taylor to restructure is if he still wants to play football and realizes that NO ONE will pay him the money that he is currently due on his contract. If Taylor felt like the redskins would cut him, and no one else would want him (or pay him what we were offereing), then its to his advantage to take a paycut and stay. Otherwise, he could hit the free market, and his value would only go down.

Interesting set of circuimstanses Aristocrat. I still tend to think the Skins want one more season out of him.
1) because of the value they placed on him and what they gave up to get him
2) because he was injured it delayed there true assesment of their investment

Tuff call.

Interesting set of circuimstanses Aristocrat. I still tend to think the Skins want one more season out of him.
1) because of the value they placed on him and what they gave up to get him
2) because he was injured it delayed there true assesment of their investment

Tuff call.

Oh, i agree with you that the skins very likely WILL keep Taylor, if for no other reason than to "justify" paying so steep a price to get him. However, I don't think its what they SHOULD do.

If the skins did what they SHOULD do, Cerrato would have been fired and we would have hired a real GM a long, long time ago.

according to the trade chart, our pick is worth 1150 points. Assuming the chart was followed, the only situation where we would ONLY get a lower 1st rounder and an additional 3rd is if we traded back from 13 to 16. If we go back any further, we're talking about getting a 1st and a 2nd or a 1st, 3rd and 4th.

In all likelyhood, we will attempt to trade back multiple times unless there is a specific player in the top 20 we are targeting. I think our goal is to accumulate as many 2nd and 3rd round picks as we can. Beyond that, the draft is a total crap shoot. Youre not looking for 1st year starter, so think theres much difference than a 4th round pick and a 7th round pick IMO. The big thing becomes not what a player did in college, but how coachable he is. The future of players taken in rounds 4-7 is more dependant on the quality of the teams coaching staff than anything else. Of course, there are always exceptions, but i think its a rule that generally proves true.

I like the way you think, except we all know what VC did with three 2nd rounders last year!

Oh, i agree with you that the skins very likely WILL keep Taylor, if for no other reason than to "justify" paying so steep a price to get him. However, I don't think its what they SHOULD do.

If the skins did what they SHOULD do, Cerrato would have been fired and we would have hired a real GM a long, long time ago.

Bada-bing!
Amen.