RI: What Moves Will Offseason Bring?

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Big C
01-16-2009, 10:36 AM
id like to keep taylor for this season, id like to see him at 100% health plus his contract is done after the season anyways. I would be up for trading Rogers, he has done well in locking up receivers at times but corners need to make plays in terms of interceptions and he is lacking there. re-sign hall, keep springs, cut griffin and marcus washington. i hope we dont go after a high priced OT in free agency, the draft is top heavy with OTs and id rather draft one. Go after Karlos Dansby as the "big name free agent" if we do only have one. Dunta Robinson is also an interesting one, he can make plays at cornerback, not sure of the contract he would be asking for.

BigHairedAristocrat
01-16-2009, 10:41 AM
id like to keep taylor for this season, id like to see him at 100% health plus his contract is done after the season anyways. I would be up for trading Rogers, he has done well in locking up receivers at times but corners need to make plays in terms of interceptions and he is lacking there. re-sign hall, keep springs, cut griffin and marcus washington. i hope we dont go after a high priced OT in free agency, the draft is top heavy with OTs and id rather draft one. Go after Karlos Dansby as the "big name free agent" if we do only have one. Dunta Robinson is also an interesting one, he can make plays at cornerback, not sure of the contract he would be asking for.

I agree with all your points except keeping Taylor. If we can get him to stay at a lower salary, sure, but not for 8.5M. When a team is rebuilding (like ours is), we cant afford to pay 8.5M to a 35year old DE who is coming off the worst year of his career and has an eye on hollywood... its just stupid, especially if the teams top priority is saving money.

Ideally, i'd like to get Taylor to sign a 1-year extension so he would cost 10M over the next 2 years... then if another team that thinks it has a chance for a superbowl run in 2009 loses a starting DE in training camp, trade Taylor to them for a 2010 draft pick. If we cant trade him, then keep him at his reduced rate. In the event we have to keep him, the bonus is it lets us put off addressing the DE position for one more year, allowing us to focus solely on OL, DT, and LB in the 2009draft.

SmootSmack
01-16-2009, 10:48 AM
id like to keep taylor for this season, id like to see him at 100% health plus his contract is done after the season anyways. I would be up for trading Rogers, he has done well in locking up receivers at times but corners need to make plays in terms of interceptions and he is lacking there. re-sign hall, keep springs, cut griffin and marcus washington. i hope we dont go after a high priced OT in free agency, the draft is top heavy with OTs and id rather draft one. Go after Karlos Dansby as the "big name free agent" if we do only have one. Dunta Robinson is also an interesting one, he can make plays at cornerback, not sure of the contract he would be asking for.

Robinson is a solid CB, but he's only played about 10 games in each of the past two seasons. So why would we want to go after that when we complain about getting that out of Springs anyway right now?

44ever
01-16-2009, 10:49 AM
I agree with all your points except keeping Taylor. If we can get him to stay at a lower salary, sure, but not for 8.5M. When a team is rebuilding (like ours is), we cant afford to pay 8.5M to a 35year old DE who is coming off the worst year of his career and has an eye on hollywood... its just stupid, especially if the teams top priority is saving money.

Ideally, i'd like to get Taylor to sign a 1-year extension so he would cost 10M over the next 2 years... then if another team that thinks it has a chance for a superbowl run in 2009 loses a starting DE in training camp, trade Taylor to them for a 2010 draft pick. If we cant trade him, then keep him at his reduced rate. In the event we have to keep him, the bonus is it lets us put off addressing the DE position for one more year, allowing us to focus solely on OL, DT, and LB in the 2009draft.

What happens if Taylor decides not to return?

Gmanc711
01-16-2009, 11:00 AM
Smoot...have you heard any rumors in your circles about the skins actually dangling Carlos in a trade? JLC keeps floating this but he seems to be the only one at this point.

It makes absolutely no sense to me...it would turn the strength of our defense into a possible weakness. Even if we sign Hall then who would start opposite him? Springs can't be counted on for 16 games even if he is on the team. Smoot is a #3 at best and Tryon is not even an NFL caliber player at this point. IMO they need to be trying to resign Carlos not trade him.

I agree completley here...I thought Rogers was phenominal for us last year...and Hall has not been resigned...I still would be against this...although a secnod rounder would be nice.

Bill B
01-16-2009, 11:05 AM
As far as the Skins worrying about Carlos asking for an insane contract as being a reason to trade him now - wouldn't the Skins be better off using either the franchise or transitional tag on him instead?

celts32
01-16-2009, 11:06 AM
I agree completley here...I thought Rogers was phenominal for us last year...and Hall has not been resigned...I still would be against this...although a secnod rounder would be nice.

A 2nd rounder is not value at all for Rogers. We spent like the 9th pick on him and he played really well this year and is still young. This is the kind of player you build around not trade for a 2nd rounder.

I am all for trading Moss if he can bring anything good in return...he is starting to get older and we need to start making changes to that offensive core.

BigHairedAristocrat
01-16-2009, 11:21 AM
What happens if Taylor decides not to return?

If Taylor retires then we don't have anything to worry about - we save the 8.5M and if he wants to unretire and play for someone else, then that team must give us compensation.

BigHairedAristocrat
01-16-2009, 11:25 AM
A 2nd rounder is not value at all for Rogers. We spent like the 9th pick on him and he played really well this year and is still young. This is the kind of player you build around not trade for a 2nd rounder.

I am all for trading Moss if he can bring anything good in return...he is starting to get older and we need to start making changes to that offensive core.

I agree... anything less than a top 20 first round pick for Rogers and we are screwing ourselves over. Even if Rogers is disgruntled, he has no choice but to play for us. Lance Briggs was disgruntled, but he's not anymore and he's still with the bears now. Lito Shepard was disgruntled, but he's still with the eagles. The Redskins hold all the cards with Carlos for 2 more years if the CBA expires and 2-3more years if it doesnt and they want to franchise him 1-2years. Thats plenty of time to work things out and patch up any difference between them. We should NOT, under any circumstances, let him dicate things to us. He signed a contract and thats all there is to it.

As far as Moss goes, we should be able to get a 2nd for him and I wouldnt take anything less.

BigHairedAristocrat
01-16-2009, 11:30 AM
www.dcexaminer.com >> Sports (http://www.dcexaminer.com/sports/011609-Rick_Snider__Skins_creating_a_shopping_list.html)

This article says we're very interested in Jordan Gross. What I don't understand is it speculates that we would pay him LT money to play RT for us... that would be foolish. If we signed him and gave him LT money, we should put him at LT and move Samuels to RT... something we need to do soon anyways.

I don't necessarily think we should pursue Gross (he's 29 and will cost too much), but if we did, it certainly would help our team immensly right away. We could trade down in the first round, pick up a 2nd and then use our first three picks on a center, DL, and LB... all three guys should be able to start immediately.

And Imagine our O-line with Gross-Kendall/Thomas- Mack(draft pick)-Rinehart-Samuels... now THAT would be a beastly line.

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