SmootSmack
01-13-2009, 01:56 PM
What do you all think?
Are they already Hall of Famers?
Do either need to win or at least make the Super Bowl to be considered (all this is assuming they retired at the end of the season, which I don't think they would).
Are they not Hall of Famers no matter what happens these next couple of weeks?
over the mountain
01-13-2009, 02:14 PM
interesting thought, a few years ago i didnt think warner did "it" long enough to be HOF worthy given that he didnt start in the league until he was what? 30? but he won the qb competition in AZ over a highly touted first round rook in leinart (great call by the AZ coaches to go with the qb who gives them the best chance to win vs not letting a heavy investment sit on the bench) . . i still dont think of warner as a HOfer but he does have a league and SB MVP (does he have 2 league MVPs?) . . not sure about warner. perhaps a SB win with another team might secure it for him. i could see the argument that he has played with explosive offensive teams cutting against him too.
mcnabb should def be in the HOF first ballot, superbowl win or not. if the eagles do win the SB i think he is a lock. he has made that philly team a consistent winner being in the nfc champ game something like 5 out of the past 10 years . .
warner = maybe
mcnabb = yes
go skins!!
SFREDSKIN
01-13-2009, 02:24 PM
I would say Warner over McNabb. Warner has won a SB and has proven he can play even at his ripe age, if he makes it to another SB; then there's no doubt.
irish
01-13-2009, 02:24 PM
I think both are HoFers. Warner won a SB and has been an MVP winning another SB would really make him a lock. I think McNabb is also a HoFer but IMO he needs a SB win to really secure his spot. I dont think either is a lock but I think both are worthy.
I heard that being talked about somewhere today. I did not realize McNabb's numbers were as good as they are. Both have to be in the discussion for HOF.
i dont think mcnabb is HOF at all.
GMScud
01-13-2009, 02:34 PM
I would say Warner for sure. He has thrown for 300+ yards in over 45% of his starts. That's amazing. The next closest player is Dan Fouts at 28%. Plus he has a Super Bowl ring and an MVP.
McNabb is getting close I think. He's steadily been a winner in his career, but he's 1-3 in NFC Championship Games, and has never won a Super Bowl or MVP.
If I had to vote today, I would say Warner yes, McNabb no.
Another ring for Warner with the season he's had and I would say he's pretty damn close to being a lock, a few years ago I would have said no way. Let's look at his career numbers: 28,591 passing yards, 182 TDs, 114 INTs, 93.8 rating, 3 seasons with over 4,000 yards, 4 seasons with at least 27 TDs, 65.4 career completion %. He's certainly got some good numbers.
With McNabb you've gotta figure he probably has at least 5 more years as a starter. Add a ring to that and he probably will be a Hall of Famer when all is said and done. Some of his career highlights: 29,320 passing yards, 194 TDs, 90 INTs, 5 seasons over the 3,000 yard mark, 4 seasons with at least 21 TDs, and even though he doesn't run like he used to he still has 3,109 yards rushing and 26 TDs over his career.
Dblock804
01-13-2009, 02:52 PM
For whatever reason I have enjoyed watching DM play and still dislike the eagles. Yes to both.