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44ever
01-12-2009, 03:32 PM
let's just hope Snyder keeps an interest($) in the skins

44ever
01-12-2009, 03:34 PM
That's a really good point. It makes total sense, I just for some reason hadn't thought of it that way.

Again, he will when he wins. Would you at 8-8?

MTK
01-12-2009, 03:34 PM
I don't know if a 'massive ego' was ever the problem with Snyder. This is a guy who has been known to avoid the media, rarely give interviews, and be amongst the most highly secretive in the business.

As to his current involvement of the day to day operations of the football team, Vinny Cerrato, on his very own radio show, said that he is contact with Dan Snyder, "many, many, many times throughout the day." I would submit that this is the kind of frequency that is not seen between most general managers and owners.

I'm sure the level of involvement of owners around the league varies greatly. But considering that Snyder and Vinny have more than just a business relationship and are friends, that probably explains the constant contact.

And again, nobody is denying that Snyder is involved. It's the level of involvement that is highly debatable.

irish
01-12-2009, 03:36 PM
he will when he wins Matty :)

!00% correct. Why would he want to crow about the mediocre teams the Skins keep putting on the field?

MTK
01-12-2009, 03:37 PM
Again, he will when he wins. Would you at 8-8?

Well, he's up front about his involvement in contract negotations and we all know that some of the deals he's handed out have been "questionable" to say the least. So why is he taking credit for that but not personnel decisions, if he is indeed making them as some say?

irish
01-12-2009, 03:39 PM
Well, he's up front about his involvement in contract negotations and we all know that some of the deals he's handed out have been "questionable" to say the least. So why is he taking credit for that but not personnel decisions, if he is indeed making them as some say?

Contract decisions are one thing, evaluating players is totally different. If the player is a bust then he's just signing checks.

GMScud
01-12-2009, 03:42 PM
Again, he will when he wins. Would you at 8-8?

No, but Jerry Jones hasn't done shit in 12 or 13 seasons, he knows people are super-skeptical of his meddlesome role(s) with the Cowgirls, yet he still publicly flexes his owner/GM/pseudo-head coach muscles every chance he gets.

You don't see any of that from Danny, despite being such a supposed "ego-maniac." I think that was the point Matty was driving at.

Beemnseven
01-12-2009, 03:43 PM
I am so confused?? Does Snyder defer to Cerrato, but Cerrato is Snyder's Yes man so Snyder must make the call, but he defers to Cerrato.
We have had growing pains with Snyder, but he was is and will be the BOA (best owner available) to the Redskins.

I never used the term "yes man". Maybe Cerrato is, maybe he isn't. Whether Snyder today is as consumed with assembling the roster as he was in 2000 with the Bruce Smith, Jeff George, and Deion acquisitions is anyone's guess.

The fact remains, this partnership, however one chooses to define it's structure or chain of command, has a losing record. And not counting Marty's year, there have been the same two guys at the helm of this ship. As for the 'best owner available', you may be right. But the key word there is 'available'.

Beemnseven
01-12-2009, 03:45 PM
In some ways I think that DS not being afraid to spend $ is counter-productive. IMO if DS was a bit tighter fisted it would "force" the Skins into have to be more focused and rely more on the draft which IMO would provide a stronger foundation for the team.


That's true. Excellent point.

44ever
01-12-2009, 03:48 PM
Well, he's up front about his involvement in contract negotations and we all know that some of the deals he's handed out have been "questionable" to say the least. So why is he taking credit for that but not personnel decisions, if he is indeed making them as some say?

I don't know it's speculative but, I bet VC will credit him when/if we win. I think we all agree that he ran the show but is conceding somewhat. None of us know how much. We can however deduct his involvement by contrasting 07 to what happens this offseason. If it's the same old then that speeks for itself

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