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44ever
01-12-2009, 12:51 PM
Personally I think this is the first season he has truly "stepped back". I don't think he ever will completly. Again in a world with no salary cap Snyders a nice asset.

Smoot did sum it up nicely.

freddyg12
01-12-2009, 01:14 PM
I think the article is well written. I appreciate what others have said about DS stepping back on decisions and letting Vinny take over. Yet I can't be totally convinced that Vinny's not making decisions w/Snyder in his ear. Two wr's & a TE in last year's draft smells of danny influence. Was Jason Taylor all Vinny's decision (for the record I like the deal at the time, but a 2nd was awful high).

Has Snyder improved? I think so, but it will take a long time for him to truly be able to step aside. Something about the team of Danny/Vinny that rubs people the wrong way, and doesn't seem good for the team. It's not like people hate them because they're jealous of the wins, they just hate them.

irish
01-12-2009, 01:17 PM
Gotta say I strongly disagree with this assumption that Snyder is GM'ing the team. He has definitely stepped back in recent years to the point now where I honestly think his input on personnel is pretty limited.

Smootsmack sums things up pretty well above.

I think its hard to really know how much DS has pulled back since all we get is what we hear thru the media. Just because he has given the impression he's pulled back from GMing doesnt mean he really has.

Trample the Elderly
01-12-2009, 01:22 PM
He has gotten a little better. If we draft another WR then I'll be calling for someone's head, as if it mattered.

GusFrerotte
01-12-2009, 01:35 PM
Nobody knows how much The Danny has pulled back from the FO decision making. More than half the stuff coming out of Redskins Park is BS anyway. And even if the Danny is totally out of the decision making process, he still needs to knock some heads with some of the crap that has gone down in the team's recent past. I do not look for us to have a solid winner built til my 50th birthday at the rate we are going. IF we stink next season don't look for JC to be resigned either!!!!!!!

MTK
01-12-2009, 01:37 PM
I think its hard to really know how much DS has pulled back since all we get is what we hear thru the media. Just because he has given the impression he's pulled back from GMing doesnt mean he really has.

The problem is we really don't know the exact extent of his involvement to begin with. It's not like he's ever come out and said he pulled the trigger on this move or on that.

Early on he probably was calling more shots than not, but he definitely had input from his Dad, Pepper Rodgers, Vinny, etc. Then for one year Marty took over and was the main guy, then Vinny came back into the fold, then Gibbs, and now Vinny is running football ops and from all indications he is calling the shots and Snyder handles more of the financial end of things, contracts, etc.

GusFrerotte
01-12-2009, 01:41 PM
I agree he has pulled back some, but I don't think it is as much as folks make it out to be. A guy that in the past has been shown to h ave a really big ego(almost like J Jones) can't just all of a sudden give up total command in a matter of 1-2 seasons.

skinsfan69
01-12-2009, 01:42 PM
I think it's silly to bring up 1999-2003. It's pointless. Gibbs has to take some responsibilty for some of the bad moves the team has made while he was here. And it doesn't seem Snyder is nearly as involved as Davis and Jones. But if Snyder REALLY wanted to win bad enough, he'd go out and get some people who really knew how to put a team together. Floyd Reece has been sitting out there for a while now. Why isn't he here in some capacity? Reece has as much experience as anyone out there. I know a lot of you out there will frown on it but Casserly knows the league and has helped put together SB winning teams. Why isn't he here? IMO Snyder doesn't want to win bad enough.

Defensewins
01-12-2009, 01:43 PM
Gotta say I strongly disagree with this assumption that Snyder is GM'ing the team. He has definitely stepped back in recent years to the point now where I honestly think his input on personnel is pretty limited.

Smootsmack sums things up pretty well above.

Wasn't it Snyder that started negotiating with Lance Briggs with out notifying Gibbs? Hasn't Snyder personally handled contract negotiations with some players? Wouldn't by definition make him at least co-GM?

irish
01-12-2009, 01:43 PM
The problem is we really don't know the exact extent of his involvement to begin with. It's not like he's ever come out and said he pulled the trigger on this move or on that.

Early on he probably was calling more shots than not, but he definitely had input from his Dad, Pepper Rodgers, Vinny, etc. Then for one year Marty took over and was the main guy, then Vinny came back into the fold, then Gibbs, and now Vinny is running football ops and from all indications he is calling the shots and Snyder handles more of the financial end of things, contracts, etc.

I think his involvement to begin with was way more than we thought. I agree there is no way to know for sure but that's my feeling.

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