The Real Problem of the Redskins ...

At times Pitts oline was terrible but they've come together as of late. They are run blocking well, too.

Ngata is pretty good.

No disagreement on either point. My point was the whole mantra of 'linemen, linemen, linemen' is largely irrelevant without elite players at the other positions and vice versa, elite players at the other positions largely make having great linemen somewhat irrelevant.

Dockery was a 3rd round pick. I forget if that was Marty or Spurrier though.

Either way, the whole OL argument is largely overblown. Look at the Steelers and Cards, their offensive lines were terrible this year. But, they have elite players at key positions to compensate for that. Who is the most dominant DL left in the playoffs, Hatoli Ngata? Again, overblown when you have elite players who can compensate. We lack elite players and an elite scheme.

Yeah I forgot about him but that is moot being that he left without us getting any compensation for him.


At least if our offensive line was solid we would be able to see which skill player is the liability. Making a mistake on a major skill player in the offseason is more finanicially damning than poorly drafting OL high in the draft.

Yeah I forgot about him but that is moot being that he left without us getting any compensation for him.

The Redskins received a 3rd round pick (96th overall) for losing Dockery.

NFL announces 32 compensatory picks for 15 teams (http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d80780d69&template=with-video&confirm=true)

The Redskins received a 3rd round pick (96th overall) for losing Dockery.

NFL announces 32 compensatory picks for 15 teams (http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d80780d69&template=with-video&confirm=true)

I considered that but didn't mention it because it wasn't a direct result of him moving from the team in a trade.

Check this link out...
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/was.htm (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/draft/was.htm)

we haven't drafted a OL in the first round since the year 2000..."In the year two thoouuuuuuuu-sund!, In the year two thouuuuuuuuu-SUND!"... Lots of things have changed since then. In that time we've all gone broke and every toddler now has a cellphone. Our team is in need of some homegrown hogs to pride ourselves in. We've missed out on some top level OL talent for the last decade. It's time we get our up and commins'.


It's funny how everyone cites the Skins to use the blueprint of our Super Bowl runs years ago. They calmour to bring back Gibbs, the modern day form of the smurfs in Moss and Randle El, and the counter-tre formations but no one ever talks about investing high round draft picks on OL to build our next competitive foundation like the hogs.

Just like Pittsburgh is known for its elite LB's the Washington Redskins should be known for their superior OL.

The Redskins received a 3rd round pick (96th overall) for losing Dockery.

NFL announces 32 compensatory picks for 15 teams (http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d80780d69&template=with-video&confirm=true)

We got Rinehardt with that pick correct?

I agree that Dan Snyder may not be the best owner. But at the same time I still like the fact that he seems to be very determined to win. Snyder may not always go the best way about trying to win but atleast he has the desire. On the flip side I'm an O's fan as well, and Pete Angelos is a stingy bum who won't spend a nickel to get the O's better, no matter how embarassing the team is. Atleast I see an eagerness in Dan Snyder to win.

Hopefully he will learn that if he's not careful 0-16 could be lurking

Has anyone ever thought that maybe Joe Bugel is now part of the problem. I heard him on one of the Redskins show's durn training camp that our O line was looking very strong and blowing guys off the ball. He thought that the line was going to be a strength of the Skins. Maybe he thinks that this veterain line is good and points to injuries over the past couple of years as our problem. He has been here sense 2004 and maybe he has not pushed hard enough for us to draft any O Line players and felt what we had would do. Now I do remember that Vinny wanted a lineman this year in the draft but the ones we wanted where gone by the time we had our pick. So who really knows who is at fault for not drafting any O line.

Has anyone ever thought that maybe Joe Bugel is now part of the problem. I heard him on one of the Redskins show's durn training camp that our O line was looking very strong and blowing guys off the ball. He thought that the line was going to be a strength of the Skins. Maybe he thinks that this veterain line is good and points to injuries over the past couple of years as our problem. He has been here sense 2004 and maybe he has not pushed hard enough for us to draft any O Line players and felt what we had would do. Now I do remember that Vinny wanted a lineman this year in the draft but the ones we wanted where gone by the time we had our pick. So who really knows who is at fault for not drafting any O line.

I love Bugel but I wish all of Gibbs' coaches had be let go when Zorn came in so that the slate could be wiped clean.

I love Bugel but I wish all of Gibbs' coaches had be let go when Zorn came in so that the slate could be wiped clean.
If they are going to let him go, I hope they do it......tactfully. I would hate for Buges to get hurt to much!