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SmootSmack 01-09-2009, 09:58 AM Right now I'm really hoping to see Gerald McCoy, though he's projected to be a top 10 pick this year. However I'm having second thoughts about Duke Robinson, I mean our team already has enough problems staying disciplined that we really shouldn't be using a first round pick on a player that makes such stupid mental errors.
He looked ugly early but he settled down, and that lack of discipline is not the norm for him.
Dblock804 01-09-2009, 10:29 AM If Tebow comes out he will play for Detroit. He will start a church in Canada. Leppers on every corner of the earth will by Lions gear and fill the staduim and there will be no more T.V. blackouts.
SFREDSKIN 01-09-2009, 10:36 AM Any word on Taylor Mays (second coming of ST) safety from USC?
GTripp0012 01-09-2009, 10:43 AM I don't get the Tebow projections. While I think he, more than anyone else but Bradford, really needs another year of college if he wants to play quarterback at the next level, I don't see anything inherent in his game that would make me think he can't be a professional quarterback.
Like most underclassmen, Tebow is probably unprepared right now for the trials and tribulations of an NFL quarterback, but if he ends up as a two time Heisman winner two time Nat'l Champ at Florida, a three year starter with considerable playing time as a Freshman, I don't see why he wouldn't be the great prospect he seems like he should be.
Same deal with Bradford. Stay in school, get a degree, refine your skills. If the reason for your success is because you are really talented and not because your team is really talented, you will continue to have tons of success in college.
KI Skins Fan 01-09-2009, 10:59 AM I don't get the Tebow projections. While I think he, more than anyone else but Bradford, really needs another year of college if he wants to play quarterback at the next level, I don't see anything inherent in his game that would make me think he can't be a professional quarterback.
Like most underclassmen, Tebow is probably unprepared right now for the trials and tribulations of an NFL quarterback, but if he ends up as a two time Heisman winner two time Nat'l Champ at Florida, a three year starter with considerable playing time as a Freshman, I don't see why he wouldn't be the great prospect he seems like he should be.
Same deal with Bradford. Stay in school, get a degree, refine your skills. If the reason for your success is because you are really talented and not because your team is really talented, you will continue to have tons of success in college.
Have you forgotten about the money? If a player is drafted high in the first round, then he will be an instant multi-millionaire. If either or both of them is projected to go high, then he needs to come out and take the money.
GTripp0012 01-09-2009, 11:08 AM Have you forgotten about the money? If a player is drafted high in the first round, then he will be an instant multi-millionaire. If either or both of them is projected to go high, then he needs to come out and take the money.First of all, you can continue to play well in college and be a first rounder next year. Secondly, the second deal you get is the big money deal, so its more important to one's financial future to be good and successful at what they do then to be drafted high and not be as successful as they could be.
Finally, committing to the draft doesn't ensure you will be a high first round pick. It just ensures that you can't go back to college.
MeanEvilSkin 01-10-2009, 08:19 PM First of all, you can continue to play well in college and be a first rounder next year. Secondly, the second deal you get is the big money deal, so its more important to one's financial future to be good and successful at what they do then to be drafted high and not be as successful as they could be.
Finally, committing to the draft doesn't ensure you will be a high first round pick. It just ensures that you can't go back to college.
Disagree with respect to Bradford. He looks great now because he has ALL DAY to survey the field. The left side of his line is heading to the pros -- Loadholt and Robinson. With the pressure he may face next year, he may end up dropping out of the top five. He has to take the money now. The difference between top 5 money and tail end of the first round money is huge. It'll set him up for life.
GusFrerotte 01-10-2009, 08:33 PM Have you forgotten about the money? If a player is drafted high in the first round, then he will be an instant multi-millionaire. If either or both of them is projected to go high, then he needs to come out and take the money.
GTripp has a point. Tebow needs to refine his game, namely his passing game. He won't be able to pull off most of his running in the NFL minus the option plays. It is nice that he can run when needed, but you can only run so many draw plays in a NFL game. He has a good arm, but face it UF is loaded, and there is not much parody in the SEC. He would also make history next season if he wins the Heisman again. That alone is worth more than money!!!!!
GusFrerotte 01-10-2009, 08:35 PM Disagree with respect to Bradford. He looks great now because he has ALL DAY to survey the field. The left side of his line is heading to the pros -- Loadholt and Robinson. With the pressure he may face next year, he may end up dropping out of the top five. He has to take the money now. The difference between top 5 money and tail end of the first round money is huge. It'll set him up for life.
Bradford in my opinion is going to be possibly the next Joey Harrington.
GMScud 01-10-2009, 10:01 PM GTripp has a point. Tebow needs to refine his game, namely his passing game. He won't be able to pull off most of his running in the NFL minus the option plays. It is nice that he can run when needed, but you can only run so many draw plays in a NFL game. He has a good arm, but face it UF is loaded, and there is not much parody in the SEC. He would also make history next season if he wins the Heisman again. That alone is worth more than money!!!!!
That's a pretty solid assessment. Personally, I want Tebow to come back because I'm a Gator and I'm being selfish. He is dead set on being a QB in the NFL. But Kiper/McShay seem to think he projects better as a H-back style player, grading out around the 3rd round.
His intangibles are possibly the best I've ever seen on any athlete, pro or college. I've heard plenty of opinions from big names in college football - Tommy Bowden, Lou Holtz, Mark Richt, Nick Saban, Jim Tressel, etc say he's possibly the best leader they've ever seen. Plus he's got a strong arm and makes pinpoint throws in big situations. But he has a long release and sometimes makes poor throws in ho-hum situations. If he goes pro now and insists on being a QB, then he'll be holding a clip board for a while. He needs to refine his passing skills, and make another run at a title/Heisman.
If you're a 2 time Heisman winner and/or a 3 time national champion, someone will give you a shot to start for their team. Stay in school Timmy.
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