Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2009


BigHairedAristocrat
03-05-2009, 11:34 AM
The cap info here is not official, but it's usually very close.

It seemed reasonable to me, but i just had to mention it as a possibility. Considering the number of needs we have, it doesnt make sense for us to just be sitting on our butts and not doing anything to improve our team with that money now, especially considering we only have 2 draft picks that have a realistic possiblity to produce key contributors in 2009. There are still quite a few quality players out there - why arent we doing anything with the cap space?

Things are just not adding up.

Schneed10
03-05-2009, 11:39 AM
I'm a bit confused by something. According to the information on this site, the Redskins are 12-13M under the cap.

However, this mornings RedskinsInsider blog had this to say,

Does T.O. Make Sense for Skins? - Redskins Insider (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2009/03/does_to_make_sense_for_skins.html#more)



How can we have 12-13M in cap space, yet have "little flexibility"? It just doesnt make sense. Any thoughts?

Fair question. It's likely because Vinny probably said "little flexibility" before they cut Jason Taylor. JLCs says "Cerrato recently said". It depends on how "recent" JLC's definition of recent is. If it was said before Taylor was cut, then it was true at the time. But now that he has been released, we have mad flexibility. And this makes sense, Vinny was trying to negotiate a restructure with Taylor and didn't expect him to balk at the workout bonus. He was thrown for a loop and then decided it was best to cut him.

When they released Taylor they went from having something like $3 million to having upwards of $11 million. That takes you from not much flexibility to lots of flexibility overnight.

As for the cap information on this site, trust me it's right. I like to think my MBA in Finance wasn't for naught. CC is quite an accountant himself, I've examined his stuff thoroughly and it's right on from my perspective. Further, there's another cap source out there who's also a strong accountant, and CC's numbers tie out to his.

We have to use estimates from time to time to develop cap hits, this is done when we don't have accurate sources for contract info. But those estimates are always in the ballpark. At least close enough to say with certainty that after releasing Jason Taylor the Skins have plenty of flexibility.

Schneed10
03-05-2009, 11:41 AM
We could sign TO if we wanted.

[ducks and covers]

Ruhskins
03-05-2009, 11:46 AM
We could sign TO if we wanted.

[ducks and covers]

Allow me to show people's reaction to this...

:soapbox: :soapbox: :soapbox: :soapbox:

That Guy
03-05-2009, 12:48 PM
vet min!

BigHairedAristocrat
03-05-2009, 12:52 PM
Fair question. It's likely because Vinny probably said "little flexibility" before they cut Jason Taylor. JLCs says "Cerrato recently said". It depends on how "recent" JLC's definition of recent is. If it was said before Taylor was cut, then it was true at the time. But now that he has been released, we have mad flexibility. And this makes sense, Vinny was trying to negotiate a restructure with Taylor and didn't expect him to balk at the workout bonus. He was thrown for a loop and then decided it was best to cut him.

When they released Taylor they went from having something like $3 million to having upwards of $11 million. That takes you from not much flexibility to lots of flexibility overnight.

As for the cap information on this site, trust me it's right. I like to think my MBA in Finance wasn't for naught. CC is quite an accountant himself, I've examined his stuff thoroughly and it's right on from my perspective. Further, there's another cap source out there who's also a strong accountant, and CC's numbers tie out to his.

We have to use estimates from time to time to develop cap hits, this is done when we don't have accurate sources for contract info. But those estimates are always in the ballpark. At least close enough to say with certainty that after releasing Jason Taylor the Skins have plenty of flexibility.


Thanks for the response. For what its worth, the Times reported today that we have 6M in cap room. That number doesnt seem like it would fit a pre- or post- cut of JT analysis based on the numbers you've been working with as starting points.

Willis the first free agent to visit Redskins - Redskins 360 - Washington Redskins Blog - The Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/redskins/2009/Mar/05/willis-first-free-agent-visit-redskins/)

MTK
03-05-2009, 01:05 PM
Thanks for the response. For what its worth, the Times reported today that we have 6M in cap room. That number doesnt seem like it would fit a pre- or post- cut of JT analysis based on the numbers you've been working with as starting points.

Willis the first free agent to visit Redskins - Redskins 360 - Washington Redskins Blog - The Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/redskins/2009/Mar/05/willis-first-free-agent-visit-redskins/)

Depending on the source the cap room varies greatly, but we're usually pretty close to the real number. I honestly don't know where the WT gets their info but $6M makes no sense at all. That would mean we were in the red for $2M before releasing Taylor.

The Goat
03-05-2009, 01:24 PM
Depending on the source the cap room varies greatly, but we're usually pretty close to the real number. I honestly don't know where the WT gets their info but $6M makes no sense at all. That would mean we were in the red for $2M before releasing Taylor.

I actually saw an article (can't remember source) showing us in the red before the Taylor cut. It wasn't by $2M, closer to $1M i think.

... this cap stuff always confuses.

Schneed10
03-05-2009, 02:02 PM
Thanks for the response. For what its worth, the Times reported today that we have 6M in cap room. That number doesnt seem like it would fit a pre- or post- cut of JT analysis based on the numbers you've been working with as starting points.

Willis the first free agent to visit Redskins - Redskins 360 - Washington Redskins Blog - The Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/redskins/2009/Mar/05/willis-first-free-agent-visit-redskins/)

Not to be arrogant, but $6M is flat out wrong. If you choose to believe in that number, be my guest. Not sure what else I can say.

BigHairedAristocrat
03-05-2009, 02:04 PM
I actually saw an article (can't remember source) showing us in the red before the Taylor cut. It wasn't by $2M, closer to $1M i think.

... this cap stuff always confuses.

Same here. i think it was a times article as well.

Not to be arrogant, but $6M is flat out wrong. If you choose to believe in that number, be my guest. Not sure what else I can say.

I have no reason not to beleive the numbers you provide here - im sorry if i gave off that impression. I dont think its arrogant to stand by your work either. You are confident in the work youve done, and the numbers make sense.

I'm just confused because the numbers here seem to conflict with what the Post and the Times are indicating - that we dont have alot of room to play with. The fact that we havent been very active in signing guys since we cut Taylor also confirms that - for whatever reason - the skins are acting as if they dont have much room to play with. If they did have 12-13M in cap space, one would think the skins would be doing a little more to address RT, G, DE, and LB.

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