freddyg12
01-27-2009, 02:13 PM
Disappointing to hear that they don't think Rinehart is at least ready to compete for significant playing time in 2009. Maybe I was actually wrong about him. Wouldn't that be something?!
yeah, to me that was the worst news (assuming accuracy) of the article. I wonder if he can be coached up along w/lots of work in the offseason to get him to the point that by maybe mid season when we'll need him, he'd be ready to step in for whoever is injured? Or if they seriously question his long-term ability to ever start in the nfl.
Just goes to show us again how the lack of picks over the years comes back to bite us. Because they're always trading picks, the lack thereof means that the ones they have need to be starters. Little to no margin of error for each pick.
KLHJ2
01-27-2009, 02:16 PM
I am much like Desert Storm I.........Shocked and Awed!
You mean "Operation Iraqi Freedom". In Desert Storm they just Rock and Rolled.
Son Of Man
01-27-2009, 02:18 PM
Building a team takes time. We have some pieces in place but we need to keep getting younger. The team should look to accumulate as many draft picks as possible and be weary of signing any free agents that are over the age of 27. Build from the trenches outward. How do you think the Gibbs/Casserly combo won 3 titles with 3 different "veteran" quaterbacks?
Son Of Man
01-27-2009, 02:20 PM
yeah, to me that was the worst news (assuming accuracy) of the article. I wonder if he can be coached up along w/lots of work in the offseason to get him to the point that by maybe mid season when we'll need him, he'd be ready to step in for whoever is injured? Or if they seriously question his long-term ability to ever start in the nfl.
Just goes to show us again how the lack of picks over the years comes back to bite us. Because they're always trading picks, the lack thereof means that the ones they have need to be starters. Little to no margin of error for each pick.
*Wouldn't be the first time LaConfora is wrong!!!
BigHairedAristocrat
01-27-2009, 02:21 PM
I don't think we should get rid of ALL of our older players, but we should be selective and not be so damn worried about keeping together a core group for a "one last run at it" kind of thing. The Ravens, Flacons, and Dolphins all proved that if you build the lines, you can succeed (overnight) in spite of other weaknesses. IMO, we should adopt that strategy and move forward.
i agree with you 100% that we don't HAVE to be horrible next year in order to rebuild - it IS possible to succeed "overnight" but addressing the lines... but the Ravens and Dolphins both had far more draft picks last year than we do (at this time), far more salary cap space, and far more accomplished men making the decisions. I would love for us to build through the lines and have instant success, but right now, i dont think we can "count" on it. Miami and baltimore greatly improved in one year, but neither of them are playing in Tampa this sunday.
Anyone who is not in our plans for 2010 and beyond, and is eating up a large chunk of salary and a roster spot should be jettisoned now. theres no reason to waste salary cap room and roster spots. Yes, we may or may not take a hit in performance in 2009 because of it. But for every old declining veteran we get rid of, it opens up another spot on our roster and/or practice squad to develop future talent.
Guys like Griffin, Washington, Taylor, Thrash, Daniels, and Springs should be cut. If Springs or Griff wanted to come back at a reduced salary, i'd consider it, but it would depend on what else is out there. Kendall may be worth keeping, but in the end, he's not in the plans for 2010 so he'd be more of a stop-gap depth guy at the vet min. anything more and i'd look elsewhere.
Guys like Jansen, Rabach, and ARE or Moss may stick around another year because theyre more valueable to us this year than they are cut (price v. performance v. depth), but we need to start looking for their replacements as well.
BigHairedAristocrat
01-27-2009, 02:40 PM
Just read JLCs new article after my previous post, so its got me thinking slightly differently.
JLC has been reporting for over a month that the team doesnt like Rinehart.
I like the fact that Bugel is finally admitting that his old guys dont cut it, cut its saddening to hear that we wont really try to do anything about it.
I do not understand why on earth we would try to keep Griffin without asking him to take a reduced salary. Good to know Taylor will probably be gone and likely Springs too (at least at his salary). I wouldnt mind extending Springs at a reduced annual salary (no more than 3.5M/year), moving him to FS and Landry to SS, but i think Springs would rather be a FA and sign with Dallas.
The only thing I can think of to explain the FOs thinking here is if we plan on letting our defense suffer another year so we can focus in the draft soley on offensive line.
That logic makes sense to a degree:
-our defense was our strength last year
-Its JCs contract year (and essentially the same for Zorn) and we need to get them as much help as possible on offense to see if theyre worth keeping around...
I personally dont know if I agree with the strategy (assuming its their strategy). What do you guys think?
RedskinMike
01-27-2009, 02:47 PM
Building a team takes time. We have some pieces in place but we need to keep getting younger. The team should look to accumulate as many draft picks as possible and be weary of signing any free agents that are over the age of 27. Build from the trenches outward. How do you think the Gibbs/Casserly combo won 3 titles with 3 different "veteran" quaterbacks?
casserly was gm for only 1 of those titles
SmootSmack
01-27-2009, 02:51 PM
yeah, to me that was the worst news (assuming accuracy) of the article. I wonder if he can be coached up along w/lots of work in the offseason to get him to the point that by maybe mid season when we'll need him, he'd be ready to step in for whoever is injured? Or if they seriously question his long-term ability to ever start in the nfl.
Just goes to show us again how the lack of picks over the years comes back to bite us. Because they're always trading picks, the lack thereof means that the ones they have need to be starters. Little to no margin of error for each pick.
You gotta wonder what it is he did or didn't do to make them change their minds on him, because it's not like he had ample playing time in games.
Defensewins
01-27-2009, 02:51 PM
I am not surprised to read that Redskin players and sources are saying Jason Taylor and Shawn Springs will NOT accept a pay cut or a contract renegotiation. This is going to make for an interesting offseason.
The Reinhardt comments are not really a surprise. He is clearly in Bugel's dog house and that fact despite all of the injuries to the OL, Reinhard was not even considered for even a few minutes of play time is very telling. This guy must be stinking it up in practice. This rookie class is not really showing signs of improvements.
Defensewins
01-27-2009, 02:57 PM
You gotta wonder what it is he did or didn't do to make them change their minds on him, because it's not like he had ample playing time in games.
He is showing the coaches in practice that he does not have the ability to play on an NFL field.