Questions that might effect the DRAFT

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Trample the Elderly
01-09-2009, 02:26 PM
everyone repeat after me, we need lineman. not the best available, lineman. on both sides of the ball. and lineman that aren't projects. lineman that are expected to step up and play, right away

That's what I'm screaming.

itvnetop
01-09-2009, 04:29 PM
everyone repeat after me, we need lineman. not the best available, lineman. on both sides of the ball. and lineman that aren't projects. lineman that are expected to step up and play, right away

Depending on the picks of teams before us, what if that lineman left at 13 isn't projected on our board to step in right away... and by some stroke of good fortune, nobody took the top rated safety (who coincidentally will grade out as the best safety prospect since Swoop) by then?

The FO had in mind who they wanted last season in the first round (linemen, btw)... but they weren't willing to settle for someone piddling in the middle of their board just b/c their targets were all snatched up early.

SmootSmack
01-10-2009, 04:12 PM
Depending on the picks of teams before us, what if that lineman left at 13 isn't projected on our board to step in right away... and by some stroke of good fortune, nobody took the top rated safety (who coincidentally will grade out as the best safety prospect since Swoop) by then?

The FO had in mind who they wanted last season in the first round (linemen, btw)... but they weren't willing to settle for someone piddling in the middle of their board just b/c their targets were all snatched up early.

Where exactly are you hearing this about Mays?

SFREDSKIN
01-10-2009, 04:20 PM
Depending on the picks of teams before us, what if that lineman left at 13 isn't projected on our board to step in right away... and by some stroke of good fortune, nobody took the top rated safety (who coincidentally will grade out as the best safety prospect since Swoop) by then?

The FO had in mind who they wanted last season in the first round (linemen, btw)... but they weren't willing to settle for someone piddling in the middle of their board just b/c their targets were all snatched up early.

Yep, Mays is the second coming of ST and the Niners will probably get him if he's on the board. He's 6'3" 230LB, hits hard and runs in the 4.4 in the 40, reports of 4.3 speed have been mentioned.

30gut
01-10-2009, 05:09 PM
Depending on the picks of teams before us, what if that lineman left at 13 isn't projected on our board to step in right away... and by some stroke of good fortune, nobody took the top rated safety (who coincidentally will grade out as the best safety prospect since Swoop) by then?

The FO had in mind who they wanted last season in the first round (linemen, btw)... but they weren't willing to settle for someone piddling in the middle of their board just b/c their targets were all snatched up early.

I think Mays is a beast, but how would he help this Redskins team?

We're good at safety. Mays would probably be an upgrade over Horton but by how much? IMO he's not a big enough improvement to warrant passing on an offensive lineman, defensive lineman or linebacker.

itvnetop
01-11-2009, 10:59 AM
Where exactly are you hearing this about Mays?

Er, the part about Mays grading out or him possibly staying at SC? The grading out part is just my conjecture lol. Him possibly staying is from a few inside sources on the SC forum (usually very credible)... but I think he's now seeing the possibility that his stock may just rise even more during the combine. Plus, he got one of those NFL draft evaluations so I'm thinking he knows what's up.

itvnetop
01-11-2009, 11:02 AM
Yep, Mays is the second coming of ST and the Niners will probably get him if he's on the board. He's 6'3" 230LB, hits hard and runs in the 4.4 in the 40, reports of 4.3 speed have been mentioned.

Actually, there are many reports that he's gone sub-4.3. The players say he's the fastest dude on the team... a freakin' safety running faster than all our 5-star corners, backs and receivers.. wow.

SmootSmack
01-11-2009, 02:35 PM
Er, the part about Mays grading out or him possibly staying at SC? The grading out part is just my conjecture lol. Him possibly staying is from a few inside sources on the SC forum (usually very credible)... but I think he's now seeing the possibility that his stock may just rise even more during the combine. Plus, he got one of those NFL draft evaluations so I'm thinking he knows what's up.

How he grades out, because I got to tell ya what I've heard is that a lot of front office personnel and scouts aren't as high on him, later in the first round possibly early second is what they're thinking.

Would like to get your thoughts on Moala though.

itvnetop
01-11-2009, 02:58 PM
How he grades out, because I got to tell ya what I've heard is that a lot of front office personnel and scouts aren't as high on him, later in the first round possibly early second is what they're thinking.

Would like to get your thoughts on Moala though.

Really? Wow... do you have any specific stuff they're saying about him? Just about of us SC guys think he's the absolute truth. Physically, he's just about as superior as you can get and his coverage has gotten better each year. I think the one knock I could see is that he really truly hasn't been tested on an island yet- there was so much talent in our secondary this season, it seemed he had backup wherever he went (thus able to blast people up without fear of whiffing). I'm truly curious as to why scouts aren't too keen on him.

Moala is the enigma. I remember some people had him as a top pick before last season started, but he was inconsistent throughout the year. He's not too quick upfield, but he's really good in run defense (can handle the double-teams fairly well). Out of the last few DT entries from SC, he definitely doesn't have the potential of Ellis or Patterson. He needs to improve his technique, but I think playing in our defense has him ready play at the next level.

SmootSmack
01-11-2009, 03:42 PM
Haven't really heard any specifics, just that some NFL folk think he will fall. I think there are some intangibles at play, does he read offenses well?

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