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The Goat 03-03-2009, 11:14 PM Oh, we'll spend, we just never even offered Evans a contract. We're simply not interested in bringing him back.
The DE market goes about 11 deep with average talent, so we'll have no problem finding a LE if we don't get Orakpo in the draft. No problem at all.
Redskins Insider is reporting that Pete Kendall is the next target. I'd imagine we will make a serious run at Ray Willis very soon.
I know we all have our favorite resources (disclaimer) but walterfootball has from the beginning of the off-season listed Evans as one of the top DE available, and more specifically the best coming out of a 4-3 system. The guys listed after him are either 1) older (and probably much more worn because Evans really hasn't taken much abuse and hasn't suffered any injuries 2) designated as situational pass-rushers 3) coming off injuries.
... i can't really understand why the FO is down on Evans.
GTripp0012 03-03-2009, 11:18 PM Just throwing this idea out there: Terrell Suggs is the best linebacker in the game. If we sign him to an offer sheet, it costs us two first round picks. But he's only 26, so if say, we're planning on locking on Orakpo, why not instead just give Suggs a poison pill loaded deal to leave Baltimore?
There's a bunch of problems with that, like it would cost us our first round pick in 2010 as well as the No. 13 pick this year...but it IS Terrell Suggs.
This only occurred to me because I was contemplating why no team ever uses the Exclusive Franchise Tag. The obvious reason is that teams feel that they'd take two first round picks for ANY player on their team.
But if I am Ozzie Newsome, and some team -- let's say the Giants -- offers me a first rounder in 2009 and a first rounder in 2010 for a 26 year old Terrell Suggs, I'm telling them to get lost.
Granted, it's an obscene price to pay. But Suggs, Haynesworth, Rogers, and Landry on the same defense? Holy motherf-ing god.
The Goat 03-03-2009, 11:19 PM Terrell Suggs 26 Baltimore 99 ← Franchise
Julius Peppers 29 Carolina 94 ← Franchise
Chris Canty 26 Dallas NY Giants 87
Bertrand Berry 34 Arizona 84
Jason Taylor 35 Washington 82
Paul Spicer 34 Jacksonville 81
Kevin Carter 35 Tampa Bay 80
Josh Thomas 28 Indianapolis 80
Antonio Smith 27 Arizona Houston 80
Marques Douglas 32 Baltimore 79
Demetric Evans 29 Washington San Francisco79 (projection)
Igor Olshansky 27 San Diego 79
Chauncey Davis 26 Atlanta Atlanta 79
Ebenezer Ekuban 33 Denver 79
Phillip Daniels 36 Washington 78
Anthony Weaver 29 Houston 78
C.J. Mosley 26 NY Jets Jacksonville 78 (projection)
David Bowens 32 NY Jets 78
Michael Montgomery26 Green Bay 78
Vonnie Holliday 33 Miami 77
Jason Babin 29 Kansas City 75
Jerome McDougal 30 NY Giants 71
Antonio Smith signed w/ the Texans. Josh Thomas is a decent run-stopper but almost never gets to the QB (and plays opposite a monster).
... it almost looks like in order to upgrade on Evans we're set on drafting a DE very high... worries the hell out of me.
GTripp0012 03-03-2009, 11:21 PM And if you think we can land any of the big four tackles or Alex Mack, then forget I wrote.
But ask yourself this: If your only two choices are to have Brian Cushing and a first round pick in 2010, or Terrell Suggs and no first round pick in 2010, what do you do?
I know what I'm doing.
The Goat 03-03-2009, 11:23 PM And if you think we can land any of the big four tackles or Alex Mack, then forget I wrote.
But ask yourself this: If your only two choices are to have Brian Cushing and a first round pick in 2010, or Terrell Suggs and no first round pick in 2010, what do you do?
I know what I'm doing.
Take Rey Maualuga.
... and Evans :D
GTripp0012 03-03-2009, 11:24 PM I know we all have our favorite resources (disclaimer) but walterfootball has from the beginning of the off-season listed Evans as one of the top DE available, and more specifically the best coming out of a 4-3 system. The guys listed after him are either 1) older (and probably much more worn because Evans really hasn't taken much abuse and hasn't suffered any injuries 2) designated as situational pass-rushers 3) coming off injuries.
... i can't really understand why the FO is down on Evans.I like WalterFootball, but a lot of people operate under the assumption that he's a strong run defender because of his size...but he isn't at all.
He's a decent pass rusher, who can beat weaker blockers, but completely disappears against talented pass protectors.
Thus the 79 rating. He's a really bad fit in a 3-4, but San Francisco doesn't have any idea what they are doing anyway.
44ever 03-03-2009, 11:26 PM And if you think we can land any of the big four tackles or Alex Mack, then forget I wrote.
But ask yourself this: If your only two choices are to have Brian Cushing and a first round pick in 2010, or Terrell Suggs and no first round pick in 2010, what do you do?
I know what I'm doing.
Suggs, Haynesworth, Rogers, and Landry on the same defense. :food-smil
Who needs an Offense? Or picks:) Because in 2010 if suggs was available 1st round we would draft him.
The Goat 03-04-2009, 12:09 AM Ok so why are letting Evans get away again?
53 do u have a link to the article u mentioned? Just wondering how recent it is...
GTripp0012 03-04-2009, 12:12 AM Ok so why are letting Evans get away again?
53 do u have a link to the article u mentioned? Just wondering how recent it is...My guess is that this years LE isn't getting a multi year deal or much by way of signing bonus.
Evans is going to command both to keep at this point.
I'm guessing he's going to get 5/20 from SF with about 8 or so guarenteed. We have the cap space to match it, but it doesn't make sense to do so (about 3.5 mil in cap space this year).
GTripp0012 03-04-2009, 12:15 AM And for the record, it's been 10 years since Blache last coached a team that didn't have Phillip Daniels on it.
He'll be the opening day LE, and likely at the vet min.
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