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BigHairedAristocrat 02-19-2009, 03:53 PM My guess is by Wednesday (maybe Thursday), the Redskins re-sign Hall at a price for about 6 years, $44 million and $14 million guaranteed. Total guess. Either way, I think we'll keep him.
I want to keep him, but according to a reputable source on extremeskins, Hall was asking for more garaunteed than that before Aso's new contract, which raised the bar for everyone. We might be able to get him for a contract with total 6 year value in the $44M range, but the garaunteed money to sign him is going to be 18M or so now - minimum.
If we resign him, i'm guessing 6 years, 48M with 18M in garaunteed money, done in standard skins fashion where the first three years are manageable before major restructruing is required. I'm thinking cap figures of 5M, 7M, and 8M in the first three years.
GMScud 02-19-2009, 04:58 PM Were *******!
Why? Asomugha is the best corner in the game. Hall can't carry his jock. I'm not a contract wiz by any means, but I don't think Asomugha's contract gives Hall any more leverage in his asking price.
53Fan 02-19-2009, 08:02 PM Exactly GMScud. Oakland had a 7 year contract with Hall and nothing but a franchise tag with Asomugha. If Hall was even close to Asomugha, it would have made more sense to hold on to Hall and let Asomugha go at the end of the year.
SmootSmack 02-19-2009, 09:32 PM The Saints are not going to tagged their FAs. I didn't see Vilma in this article, does anyone know if he re-signed with NO?
Scouts eyeing any surprises at the combine - Page 4 - NOLA.com (http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index.ssf?/base/sports-4/1235025036316200.xml&coll=1&thispage=4)
Not yet, they'll wait until after free agency starts to sign him, I'm sure.
The Goat 02-19-2009, 09:53 PM I want to keep him, but according to a reputable source on extremeskins, Hall was asking for more garaunteed than that before Aso's new contract, which raised the bar for everyone. We might be able to get him for a contract with total 6 year value in the $44M range, but the garaunteed money to sign him is going to be 18M or so now - minimum.
If we resign him, i'm guessing 6 years, 48M with 18M in garaunteed money, done in standard skins fashion where the first three years are manageable before major restructruing is required. I'm thinking cap figures of 5M, 7M, and 8M in the first three years.
None of this... if your guesses are accurate... seems unreasonable to me. The Hall debate has been somewhat off-point IMO (not pointing to you BHA but in general i mean) as the focus has been a Rogers vs. Hall theme or a Hall vs other FAs. From the day we picked him up I've viewed Hall as Springs replacement and i still think this is sort of a common sense view. So... we're paying Springs $8+ mill to miss several games each season (with '07 being the exception) and btw every off-season he talks about leaving... I'll take Hall, who wants to be Redskin, for $6 to $8 mill a year and feel like we did the smart thing. If we let Hall walk away to get paid $6 to $8 mill somewhere else and continue to pay Springs that kind of dough here... lame!!!
CRedskinsRule 02-19-2009, 11:19 PM The Saints are not going to tagged their FAs. I didn't see Vilma in this article, does anyone know if he re-signed with NO?
Scouts eyeing any surprises at the combine - Page 4 - NOLA.com (http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index.ssf?/base/sports-4/1235025036316200.xml&coll=1&thispage=4)
The Saints still plan to sign free agent Jonathan Vilma long term, but can't before free agency. Per the terms of last year's trade, the Jets will get a second-round pick if New Orleans locks Vilma up before March. The Saints don't have a second-rounder, so they'd lose the 14th pick overall.
Source: New Orleans Times-Picayune
I assume that is a true quote, but I got it second hand. Certainly puts the Saints in a bit of a bind.
44ever 02-19-2009, 11:48 PM Why? Asomugha is the best corner in the game. Hall can't carry his jock. I'm not a contract wiz by any means, but I don't think Asomugha's contract gives Hall any more leverage in his asking price.
It does'nt. And I think Hall knows that. The Skins certainly do.
SmootSmack 02-20-2009, 12:01 AM I assume that is a true quote, but I got it second hand. Certainly puts the Saints in a bit of a bind.
Well it's more complicated than just that. If they signed him, the 4th round pick they owe the Jets would become a 2nd round pick, which they already owe to the Giants this year. And if the Saints had to take back that 2nd round pick and redirect it back to the Jets then they'd have to compensate the Giants by offering their 1st round pick in 2010. I think
44ever 02-20-2009, 12:15 AM Here is a current list of available FA/RFA Punters. (As of this morning)
Player Name ---------Current Team--------------Status------Ranking
Chris Hanson------------New England Patriots--------FA---------18th
Craig Hentrich-----------Tennessee Titans------------FA-------- 22nd
Sam Koch --------------Baltimore Ravens------------RFA -------- 9th
Hunter Smith----------- Indianapolis Colts -----------FA ---------12th
Either - Sam Koch or Hunter Smith would be a nice pickup now that Lechler is resigned.
Our only current punter is some 24 year old kid named Zac Atterberry I know nothing about him.
tryfuhl 02-20-2009, 01:17 AM Lets slap the franchise tag on Montgomery or Golston, hell throw it on Doughty. I want to feel good about a player on our team not being able to leave. I am sick of all these teams using this to keep players, when we just give them all life time contracts.
Ummmm, then pay them top 5 money? All for some guys not too many other teams would be throwing much at us for? You drunk?
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