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Trample the Elderly 01-05-2009, 03:55 PM Get rid of the dead weight through the coarse of a couple of years to recoup some money and not get burned with dead cap and release fees. Our guys are getting old in the D and O lines but they can still play. There is no doubt in my mind that most of them will be back since it would cost us to release them. I don't see all of them starting though. Draft their replacements
The players that don't cost anything or much to keep will be gone regardless to make room for cap space. We'll see a lof of players return that we wouldn't want on our roster anymore. All that I ask is that we do more to develope our own instead of blowing our wad in free agency. I like what we did last year as far as the draft and FA is concerned.
If they can continue this and stop over paying people then I'd be happy.
What Dallas needs to do.
Tell Jerry Jones that he doesn't contribute enough to the team with his input. Keep TO and promote him to team spokesman. Let Tony Romo go. He throws too many interceptions. Actually keep him on the roster. It really doesn't make that much of a difference. Keep Wade Phillips, he's the best available.
Quakerman 01-05-2009, 10:37 PM Here is what Skins fans need to do in 2009!
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BigHairedAristocrat 01-06-2009, 12:19 PM I've had some more time to think, and have come up with the changes I would like to see made to our starting team in 2009.
I know some of these moves seem drastic, but Snyder gave Vinny/Zorn a two year window to fix this franchise. This is the 2nd year. Vinny is fighing for his job and is going to want to make some big moves. I expect us to be very active this year, like how the Jets were last year. Besides that, we had a very slow offseason last year. Historically, we have had alternated every year between having very slow and very busy offseasons. I fully expect us to break the bank landing several marquee Free Agents, like we did when Gibbs returned and we traded Champ for Portis, and acquired guys like Griffin, Springs, Washington, etc. We certainly will have the cap room by cutting a number of old vets. That being said, here is my proposed starting roster for the team in 2009:
OFFENSE
QB: Chris Simms*
RB: Clinton Portis - Splits carries with Betts 70/30
WR: Santana Moss
WR: Devin Thomas
TE: Chris Cooley
LT: Chris Samuels
LG: Chad Rinehart
C: Max Unger (3rd round pick, Oregon
RG: Randy Thomas
RT: Jason Smith (1st round pick, Baylor)
DEFENSE
LE: Demetric Evans
DT: Anthony Montgomery - Rotates with Golston and Alexander
DT: Albert Haynesworth (UFA, Tennessee Titans)
RE: Andre Carter
OLB: Clay Matthews (2nd round pick**, USC)
MLB: London Fletcher
OLB: Carlos Dansby (UFA, Arizona Cardinals)
CB: Nnamdi Asomugha (UFA, Oakland Raiders)
CB: DeAngelo Hall
SS: Chris Horton
FS: Laron Landry
SPECIAL TEAMS
K: Sam Swank (6th round pick, Wake Forest)
P: Shane Lechler (UFA, Oakland Raiders)
PK: Rock Cartwright
PR: Justin Tryon
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Noteable Players Cut/Traded
Jason Campbell
Jason Taylor
Cornelius Griffin
Shawn Springs
Marcus Washington
Carlos Rogers
James Thrash - Replaced by Billy McMullen, UFA
Fred Smoot - Replaced by Matteral Richardson, PS
FORMER STARTERS RETAINED AS BACKUPS
Casey Rabach - Primary Backup C (will be cut in 2010)
Jon Jansen - Primary Backup RT (will be cut in 2010)
Stephon Heyer - Primary Backup LT
Rocky McIntosh - Primary Backup OLB
COMMENTS
*Jason Campbell Traded to Tennessee for Chris Simms, straight up. Jason Campbell is an ideal fit for Tennessee's offense. Chris Simms is an ideal fit for our offense. Its a good deal for both teams. Maybe we could get a low-round pick in addition to Simms for Campbell, but I don't think Vinny is that good of a negotiator.
**2nd round pick acquired via trade for Carlos Rogers. Normally, I wouldnt like the move, but Asomugha is a clear upgrade over Carlos, and this move would garner us a draft pick.
GMScud 01-06-2009, 12:44 PM COMMENTS
*Jason Campbell Traded to Tennessee for Chris Simms, straight up. Jason Campbell is an ideal fit for Tennessee's offense. Chris Simms is an ideal fit for our offense. Its a good deal for both teams. Maybe we could get a low-round pick in addition to Simms for Campbell, but I don't think Vinny is that good of a negotiator.
Oh....my.....god.
I don't even know what to say. I think reading that sentence just knocked my IQ down about 50 points. I'm speechless. I have no speech.
dmek25 01-06-2009, 12:49 PM bighair, you know this isn't Madden, right? what you have proposed is border line ridiculous
SmootSmack 01-06-2009, 12:52 PM Oh....my.....god.
I don't even know what to say. I think reading that sentence just knocked my IQ down about 50 points. I'm speechless. I have no speech.
You and me both. I mean I think Simms has a place in this league. But really? Trade Campbell straight up for him? Aside from the fact that I'm pretty sure Simms would be a free agent this offseason anyway. Why would you trade Campbell for Simms straight up? And then I love how he basically says "well it's not something I would do really but Vinny is so stupid he'd do it." Well if it's the changes you want, couldn't you have come up with something better than offering Campbell up in a trade for Simms?
BigHairedAristocrat 01-06-2009, 12:54 PM bighair, you know this isn't Madden, right? what you have proposed is border line ridiculous
Name one thing thats impossible for this team with over 21M in cap space created just by releasing 4 players?
BigHairedAristocrat 01-06-2009, 12:56 PM Oh....my.....god.
I don't even know what to say. I think reading that sentence just knocked my IQ down about 50 points. I'm speechless. I have no speech.
I offered an explaination. Anyone that thinks Jason Campbell will succeed in the WCO needs to take their B&G glassess off. Vinnys comments made it very clear that he is not sold on JC as our starter in 2009. Tennessee is going to resign Kerry Collins after this year and Jason Campbell is a MUCH better fit for their offensive system than Chris Simms. In Tennessee, (once Collins retires) he would become the franchise QB we dreamed he would be when we drafted him.
BigHairedAristocrat 01-06-2009, 01:00 PM You and me both. I mean I think Simms has a place in this league. But really? Trade Campbell straight up for him? Aside from the fact that I'm pretty sure Simms would be a free agent this offseason anyway. Why would you trade Campbell for Simms straight up? And then I love how he basically says "well it's not something I would do really but Vinny is so stupid he'd do it." Well if it's the changes you want, couldn't you have come up with something better than offering Campbell up in a trade for Simms?
Did you read my post? I never said I wouldnt do the trade - I want to do the trade, but i would demand more in the trade than Vinny would. We always get the short end of the stick in trades. Teams know it, and they exploit it. I would ask for a 4th rounder in addition and see what their counter-offer was. And btw, no Simms is not a free agent this offseason. He will be next season - same as Campbell. Campbell is going to be a failure in this offense, so if we don't move him this offseason, we get nothing in return for him when we cut him next year (assuming a new CBA is negotiated)
SmootSmack 01-06-2009, 01:10 PM Did you read my post? I never said I wouldnt do the trade - I want to do the trade, but i would demand more in the trade than Vinny would. We always get the short end of the stick in trades. Teams know it, and they exploit it. I would ask for a 4th rounder in addition and see what their counter-offer was. And btw, no Simms is not a free agent this offseason. He will be next season - same as Campbell. Campbell is going to be a failure in this offense, so if we don't move him this offseason, we get nothing in return for him when we cut him next year (assuming a new CBA is negotiated)
Yeah I read your post, sorry I misinterpreted what you wrote. Even more amazed though that it is a trade you advocate. I'm pretty sure that Simms is a free agent this off-season though. Besides, what makes you say that Simms is a perfect fit for this offense anyway?
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