Our WRs in 2009... My Thoughts

Get the ball in Deven Eleven's hands, and magic will happen! We need no more recievers for a while! Does anyone know why Rhinehart did not play at all this year, and will he be playing next year at a starting capacity?

Per JLC:

Rookie Devin Thomas has not endeared himself to coaches and teammates with his attitude and work ethic. With a swagger that was not backed up by his play, he did not do enough to get himself physically and mentally ready to play, and many in the organization wonder if he ever will. He could be surly, he enjoyed the nightlife and he never made any real strides toward becoming a regular part of the offense. He continually ran poor routes - often three yards or more too deep or too shallow - which is a massive difference in an intricate precision system. He didn't do nearly enough to earn the confidence of the quarterbacks. He was drafted to be the bigger, deep threat to complement Moss on the opposite side, replacing Brandon Lloyd, and ended up being similar to Lloyd in far too many ways. Thomas has already talked about the need to get away from football for a while, which, for as little as he played, is alarming. He needs to work his tail off all offseason to be ready to help this team.


Great to here from this POS. I guess aging vets aren't the only ones just collecting a check around here.

Also remember, Thomas only played one year of real college football. He will continue to get better the more he practices with JC, and learns tricks of the trade from the veteran recievers. I feel that he will make great strides this year, and by year 3 will be looking like what everyone seems to have been expecting in year one. This is the first year in a long time I remember so many rookie WR's making an instant impact on thier team. It is disapointing that we didin't get to enjoy the same breakout rookies like the Eagles, Cowboys, etc, but if we can get long term success with these rookie guys, we will be in great shape for the future!

Per JLC:

Rookie Devin Thomas has not endeared himself to coaches and teammates with his attitude and work ethic. With a swagger that was not backed up by his play, he did not do enough to get himself physically and mentally ready to play, and many in the organization wonder if he ever will. He could be surly, he enjoyed the nightlife and he never made any real strides toward becoming a regular part of the offense. He continually ran poor routes - often three yards or more too deep or too shallow - which is a massive difference in an intricate precision system. He didn't do nearly enough to earn the confidence of the quarterbacks. He was drafted to be the bigger, deep threat to complement Moss on the opposite side, replacing Brandon Lloyd, and ended up being similar to Lloyd in far too many ways. Thomas has already talked about the need to get away from football for a while, which, for as little as he played, is alarming. He needs to work his tail off all offseason to be ready to help this team.


Great to here from this POS. I guess aging vets aren't the only ones just collecting a check around here.

JLC also said the Redskins should have drafted Eddie Royal who "fit the mold of the big, target reciever they were seeking" Really? He did, did he? The 5'10" 180 lb. Royal was just what they needed in a big receiver to complement the 5'10" 185 lb. Antwaan Randle El and the 5'10" 200 lb. Santana Moss?

Yeah, this is why people think JLC is a joke.

Just read JLC's review of the DEs where he knocks the Redskins for not thinking Gaines Adams was a sexy enough pick. He doesn't even mention the fact that Adams was drafted before the Redskins drafted anyway. Perfect example of what I meant in another thread when I said sometimes people make stuff up just to bash the Redskins Front Office

Per JLC:

Rookie Devin Thomas has not endeared himself to coaches and teammates with his attitude and work ethic. With a swagger that was not backed up by his play, he did not do enough to get himself physically and mentally ready to play, and many in the organization wonder if he ever will. He could be surly, he enjoyed the nightlife and he never made any real strides toward becoming a regular part of the offense. He continually ran poor routes - often three yards or more too deep or too shallow - which is a massive difference in an intricate precision system. He didn't do nearly enough to earn the confidence of the quarterbacks. He was drafted to be the bigger, deep threat to complement Moss on the opposite side, replacing Brandon Lloyd, and ended up being similar to Lloyd in far too many ways. Thomas has already talked about the need to get away from football for a while, which, for as little as he played, is alarming. He needs to work his tail off all offseason to be ready to help this team.


Great to here from this POS. I guess aging vets aren't the only ones just collecting a check around here.

I was about to post this too. While JLC is definitely wrong about Royal's size, Royal did lead the combine wr's in the bench press, he's strong and doesn't get knocked off balance at the line. More importantly perhaps, Royal is by all accounts a great guy & was eager to learn. Everybody at VT always praised him & spoke of how humble he is. Brandon Stokely said he got a call from Royal right after the draft & he was asking the vet reciever for advice on learning the playbook. Gibbs might've jumped on this guy had he been here, he's got all the personal traits for success it seems.

I don't expect anyone to have the same "character" standards as Joe Gibbs, but in this case I really hope DT isn't as much of a problem as JLC says he is. I know JLC gets bashed here for some of his opinions (and sometimes errors), but over time I don't think he puts anything in print about a player's work ethic & character until he's got a good body of evidence. Take a look at his writing about Loyd e.g.

JLC also said the Redskins should have drafted Eddie Royal who "fit the mold of the big, target reciever they were seeking" Really? He did, did he? The 5'10" 180 lb. Royal was just what they needed in a big receiver to complement the 5'10" 185 lb. Antwaan Randle El and the 5'10" 200 lb. Santana Moss?

Yeah, this is why people think JLC is a joke.

I was thinking the same exact thing. Imagine how much the FO would have been ripped if they drafted Royal or DeSean Jackson? By the way, the other 'big' WR that we were considering in the draft James Hardy had 9 catches for 87 yards.

If this front office traded for a healthy Tom Brady JLC would criticize them for him being a character risk for having a baby out of wedlock.

Brandon Stokely said he got a call from Royal right after the draft & he was asking the vet reciever for advice on learning the playbook.

Good post. The statement above, if true, helps illistrate an important point about the role of system and coaching in player success.
The Broncos system has been in place forever. Its not new.
Although they have a new WR coach the all the other coaching staff knows the system, the HC, the OC, assistants etc.

They also have veterans that can help the rookies learn the playbook.
The Skins offense is new. Its new to the OC, its new to the WR coach, its new to the rest of the staff and the assistants. Its also new to our veterans. Moss and ARE can't help the rookies as much as Stoley could help Royal b/c they were learning the playbook themselves.

Our young guys will catch, remember its a new system.

Just read JLC's review of the DEs where he knocks the Redskins for not thinking Gaines Adams was a sexy enough pick. He doesn't even mention the fact that Adams was drafted before the Redskins drafted anyway. Perfect example of what I meant in another thread when I said sometimes people make stuff up just to bash the Redskins Front OfficeA real front office would have given Tampa or Detroit way, way too much to trade up and get a non-sexy pick like Adams! I don't know why we don't just trade entire future drafts for non-sexy defensive ends.

I was about to post this too. While JLC is definitely wrong about Royal's size, Royal did lead the combine wr's in the bench press, he's strong and doesn't get knocked off balance at the line. More importantly perhaps, Royal is by all accounts a great guy & was eager to learn. Everybody at VT always praised him & spoke of how humble he is. Brandon Stokely said he got a call from Royal right after the draft & he was asking the vet reciever for advice on learning the playbook. Gibbs might've jumped on this guy had he been here, he's got all the personal traits for success it seems.

I don't expect anyone to have the same "character" standards as Joe Gibbs, but in this case I really hope DT isn't as much of a problem as JLC says he is. I know JLC gets bashed here for some of his opinions (and sometimes errors), but over time I don't think he puts anything in print about a player's work ethic & character until he's got a good body of evidence. Take a look at his writing about Loyd e.g.Well, at least we've got the 4th WR position filled through 2011. That's got to be worth something, right?