SBXVII
01-28-2009, 05:47 PM
Your probably correct but I always figured that at each level ie; little league, high school, college, and the pro's there was always something new to learn. Little league and high school you are only learning the basics so the college talent scouts can see you. You might have been a TE in high school but a LB in college. It all depends on how your body fill out. Yes college gives you some mechanics but a lot of colleges do not run a pro style offense which means you would have to come to the pros and learn the speed of the offense, fine tune your technique or learn a new technique, and learn how the NFL coach's want you to run your routes. I'm sure Hixon had some sort of input as to which WR's to pick up. I can't imagine the evaluaters picking guys and Cerrato going after them and telling Hixon "here we brought a few more in for you...good luck." with out any input.
I'll agree the ones we brought in were not 1st round draft choices but out of 20 WR's that came in and were let go he could not find a one? I would think his track record would get better each time he had to pick due to lessons learned.
Ruhskins
01-28-2009, 06:07 PM
Speaking of WRs, let the weeping begin...
Bucs Sign WR Mix | Tampa Bay Buccaneers - Pewter Report (http://www.pewterreport.com/articles/view/5163)
SBXVII
01-28-2009, 08:10 PM
If they get rid of Hixon, who would be a good candidate? I really hope they do, it killed me all season when (the few times) JC had time to throw, the wideouts could not get separation and get open beyond 5-10 yds from the LOS.
Ok, I did a little homework as to who I would like to replace Hixon with so here it is:
1. Clyde Christensen(Colts): Probably one of the best. not sure how we could bring him in though. Give him some Asst. title? who knows.
The Official Website of the Indianapolis Colts (http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=coachbio&coach_id=20)
2. Mike Sheppard(Bengals): His WR's have led the league in receptions and yardage for the past several years. Again not sure how to bring him in.
Coach - Cincinnati Bengals (http://www.bengals.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=18)
3. Fred Graves(Titans): Another one of the best and again not sure how to bring him in.
Tennessee Titans Coaches (http://www.titansonline.com/team/coaches/staff.php?PRKey=135)
After those I started thinking about older coach's that may be sitting on the sidelines so I looked at some of the teams that ran the WCO and had high scoring years and came up with 1989-1990 49ers(SB year), 1994-1995 49ers(SB year), and 1996-1997 GB Packers(SB year).
1989-1990 49ers had Sherman Lewis: I could not locate where he is or if he is even coaching anymore.
Detroit Lions Site: Sherman Lewis (http://www.detroitlions.com/bio.cfm?bio_id=106)
1994-1995 49ers had Larry Kirksey: He is currently with the Texans. Again not sure how to bring in but he had an awsome resume.
Coach - Houston Texans (http://www.houstontexans.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=17)
1996-1997 Packers had Ray Sherman: He is currently with Dallas. Maybe we don't want a rival but he also had an awsome resume. Not sure how to steal him from them.
DallasCowboys.com | Bios | Coaches and Executives (http://www.dallascowboys.com/team/team_biosCoachExec.cfm?newName=Ray_Sherman)
Those were my ideas. I leave it up to you guys to look at and agree or disagree but it would be nice if Snyder/Cerratto/Zorn would be reading this thread and say hey lets get one of them. lol.
53Fan
01-28-2009, 09:13 PM
Ok, I did a little homework as to who I would like to replace Hixon with so here it is:
1. Clyde Christensen(Colts): Probably one of the best. not sure how we could bring him in though. Give him some Asst. title? who knows.
The Official Website of the Indianapolis Colts (http://www.colts.com/sub.cfm?page=coachbio&coach_id=20)
2. Mike Sheppard(Bengals): His WR's have led the league in receptions and yardage for the past several years. Again not sure how to bring him in.
Coach - Cincinnati Bengals (http://www.bengals.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=18)
3. Fred Graves(Titans): Another one of the best and again not sure how to bring him in.
Tennessee Titans Coaches (http://www.titansonline.com/team/coaches/staff.php?PRKey=135)
After those I started thinking about older coach's that may be sitting on the sidelines so I looked at some of the teams that ran the WCO and had high scoring years and came up with 1989-1990 49ers(SB year), 1994-1995 49ers(SB year), and 1996-1997 GB Packers(SB year).
1989-1990 49ers had Sherman Lewis: I could not locate where he is or if he is even coaching anymore.
1994-1995 49ers had Larry Kirksey: He is currently with the Texans. Again not sure how to bring in but he had an awsome resume.
Coach - Houston Texans (http://www.houstontexans.com/team/coach.asp?coach_id=17)
1996-1997 Packers had Ray Sherman: He is currently with Dallas. Maybe we don't want a rival but he also had an awsome resume. Not sure how to steal him from them.
DallasCowboys.com | Bios | Coaches and Executives (http://www.dallascowboys.com/team/team_biosCoachExec.cfm?newName=Ray_Sherman)
Those were my ideas. I leave it up to you guys to look at and agree or disagree but it would be nice if Snyder/Cerratto/Zorn would be reading this thread and say hey lets get one of them. lol.
Looks like you've done some homework SBXVII. Any of these guys would probably be an upgrade over Hixon. Nothing personal against the guy, I'm sure there are a combination of things that have made our receiving game less than stellar, but I haven't seen any reason to think he's done a good job either.
SBXVII
01-28-2009, 09:24 PM
Wikki has Sherman Lewis as out of football since 2004. Plus he's like 66 years old. Not sure if it's a healthy 66 but if he's available he's an upgrade.
I found a Bio:
Detroit Lions Site: Sherman Lewis (http://www.detroitlions.com/bio.cfm?bio_id=106)
53Fan
01-28-2009, 10:01 PM
Wikki has Sherman Lewis as out of football since 2004. Plus he's like 66 years old. Not sure if it's a healthy 66 but if he's available he's an upgrade.
I found a Bio:
Detroit Lions Site: Sherman Lewis (http://www.detroitlions.com/bio.cfm?bio_id=106)
Nice resume! Somebody call him up. HELP!
The Goat
01-28-2009, 10:14 PM
I don't know much about Stan Hixon, but this situation reminds me of the Simpsons sequence where Lenny is in charge of the powerplant.
"Um, work harder people," he says.
I think there's an assumption here that if we could get a real Lenny in here, instead of that bum Hixon, our WR production would improve.
But it probably won't do anything.
I don't even think it's worth the buyout cost to fire Hixon. If his contract expires, we can go in a different direction for his sake. But until then, seems like sort of a witch hunt to blame a guy for not rescuing the careers of crappy WRs.
Yeah but it's so easy to just blame this guy we don't know much about who isn't here to defend himself :)
... seriously, if Kelly or Thomas or both aren't significantly improved Danny Boy ought to sue Hixon for back wages (after firing him of course). This guy has yet to improve/develop a WR in the NFL (at least i haven't heard anyone dispute that point so far) and who's job is it anyway to 1) make sure his group knows the playbook inside and out and 2) make sure the WR corp can run precise routes and create separation?
SBXVII
01-29-2009, 08:18 AM
Well, I think I threw out some honest viable options for Syder and Cerratto. I actually did the leg work for them. I think the least they could do is explore those possibilities to see if there is any way they could get them in.
At this point I'm really liking Larry Kirksey and Sherman Lewis and their resumes. Plus Sherman Lewis is free right now, helped coach in a WCO, and every team he was on went to the play offs. ....Vinny!
horny4zorny-nohomo
01-29-2009, 04:35 PM
i think we should trade or cut randel and put kelly or thomas on the starting lineup
SBXVII
01-29-2009, 06:29 PM
^I like ARE and would like to keep him. Perhaps if they used him in the role he was used in Pitt then we would be better off. Put Kelly or Thomas in either #1 spot and Moss #2 or put Moss #1 and Kelly/Thomas #2. Make ARE the #3 WR.