I guess no one likes VC.

I think after this years draft and another year to see how the 2008 rookies work out, we'll have a better idea of whether Vinny should continue in his present role or not. Ideally we give him 2 more years. The upcoming draft should give us some idea, but it's too soon to judge this rookie class and we haven't even seen how he'll address this years draft.

It's the only logical choice at this point. IMO

I also think Vinny was smart to keep his mouth shut yesterday

At one time in the past I definitely think Snyder was pulling the strings more often than not, and under Gibbs I think Vinny again took a backseat. Starting with last year's off-season Vinny is clearly running the show now, and I think it's only fair to judge him based on that going forward. I agree one year is not a proper evaluation of a draft class. Most people know this too but are too hell bent on taking swipes at Vinny at any cost.
we could have taken a lot of different wide outs .I liked the picks at first but think now we should have taken only one wide out. it looked good at the time we will see next year if they can play

Oh crap you guys were seriously talking about his skills...I thought you wanted to know what I thought of him and I was going to add .....he looks like a Pug to me with his eye's going every which way. LOL.

Well....I feel Vinnie probably deserves more time. Although, he was apart of some of the picks prior to Gibbs. In Gibbs first tenure rumor was he was asking for certain free agents or draft picks and the GM and owner at the time would decide if the player was needed. Usually the player was not needed and they didn't get him. So if put in Gibbs hands I suspect we drafted or aquired peopled we didn't need. But I doubt that. I'm betting Gibbs and company gave a list of needs for position and Vinnie picked up who he thought would work.

I wonder why nobody likes the guy? He must be a total 100% dick behind closed doors. You have to wonder if Samuels has nothing good to say about you then you must be a dick cause Samuels is a good guy. But you have to wonder why no one wanted him when Marty fired him. Even Casserly got a GM job.

What would anyone say if this year with our first pick we took either Crabtree(Texas Tech) or Hicks(North Carolina).????

^ I would say I don't keep up with college ball and don't know who the heck they are. But if they can help the team so be it....however, everyone the team picks usually does not amount to much their first yr. I know, Taylor, Landry, Horton, but keep in mind it's a lot easier to be put in a position were all you have to do is sit in the back field and wait for the home run try...and occassionaly rush the QB...and not get there in time.

Everyone else other then Heyer has been relegated to practice squad or let go. Then got picked up by other teams. Funny, Mason was with us 2 yrs and looked to be an excellent replacement for Portis one day and we lose him. Then people are talking about picking up another RB in the later rounds of the draft for the same reason. Go figure. Someone else to have to take 2 more yrs to learn his job before he hits the field.

^ I would say I don't keep up with college ball and don't know who the heck they are. But if they can help the team so be it....however, everyone the team picks usually does not amount to much their first yr. I know, Taylor, Landry, Horton, but keep in mind it's a lot easier to be put in a position were all you have to do is sit in the back field and wait for the home run try...and occassionaly rush the QB...and not get there in time.

Everyone else other then Heyer has been relegated to practice squad or let go. Then got picked up by other teams. Funny, Mason was with us 2 yrs and looked to be an excellent replacement for Portis one day and we lose him. Then people are talking about picking up another RB in the later rounds of the draft for the same reason. Go figure. Someone else to have to take 2 more yrs to learn his job before he hits the field.

The two above are both WR, but are tremendously talented compared to the talent that was at the position in last years draft. People here were talking about Micheal Crabtree last year.

The two above are both WR, but are tremendously talented compared to the talent that was at the position in last years draft. People here were talking about Micheal Crabtree last year.

Then I would say we are screwed. Not cause I don't want an elite WR but cause we have basically a college coach trying to teach pros how to run routes. It has not worked in 5 yrs, we have had no production from our WR's in the last 5yrs, and anyone we picked up in the hopes they will make this team better appear to suck or can't get on the field due to lack of knowlege of the plays/routes. But lets not hold anyone accountable cause we can always pick up more next yr or draft another WR in hopes he will work out. The only reason Moss, ARE, and Thrash have worked out for us is cause they were trained prior to Hixon being here. Moss trained with the Jets, ARE trained with Pitt, and Thrash started here and got fine tuned in the WCO with the Eagles. No one else has produced. No one else has been developed since Hixon has gotten here. Everyone who had talent according to the team came, did ok or nothing at all, left and did better then here...ie; Coles, Patton, and Lloyd ring a bell. I'm afraid to ask where Mix went.

Crabtree is a sure thing hands down. Not that we need another WR but he would definately be an upgrade over Thomas

Crabtree is a sure thing hands down. Not that we need another WR but he would definately be an upgrade over Thomas

this is a prime example of why some people question VC's logic. Not that I disagree.