SFREDSKIN
12-31-2008, 11:03 AM
He does have a relationship with Jones, they were speculating this morning on ESPN radio that he could end up there. I wouldn't put it past Jones despite what he's saying about keeping Phillips.
Yeah, he'll keep Phillips as his DC. Wasn't Phillips Shanahan's DC in Denver?
53Fan
12-31-2008, 11:13 AM
He does have a relationship with Jones, they were speculating this morning on ESPN radio that he could end up there. I wouldn't put it past Jones despite what he's saying about keeping Phillips.
I hope this isn't true. Phillips is a wonderful HC for the Cowgirls. :cool-smil
celts32
12-31-2008, 11:40 AM
The last thing we need is Shanahan in Dallas! I am not a kneejerk reaction guy...but if Shanahan is in play the skins need to fire Zorn and get him at all costs. How can they let him walk in to Dallas? And then if Zorn flops next year which he probably will with this roster we are left needing a coach and all the proven ones are no longer available...
SFREDSKIN
12-31-2008, 11:52 AM
The last thing we need is Shanahan in Dallas! I am not a kneejerk reaction guy...but if Shanahan is in play the skins need to fire Zorn and get him at all costs. How can they let him walk in to Dallas? And then if Zorn flops next year which he probably will with this roster we are left needing a coach and all the proven ones are no longer available...
Relax!! Shanahan won 2 SB with Elway, what has he done since? All this guys are over rated, look at Atlanta's case they hired Mike Smith. Who the hell was he before? A no name coach who can obviously coach, there are some folks out there that given the chance can be successful. Don't panic.
GMScud
12-31-2008, 11:57 AM
The last thing we need is Shanahan in Dallas! I am not a kneejerk reaction guy...but if Shanahan is in play the skins need to fire Zorn and get him at all costs. How can they let him walk in to Dallas? And then if Zorn flops next year which he probably will with this roster we are left needing a coach and all the proven ones are no longer available...
First of all, we have no idea what coaches will be on the market after next season. Shanahan is case in point. If you could have made a list of the 5 coaches LEAST likely to be fired after 2008, he probably would have been on it.
Secondly, all reports seem to point to Cowher NOT coaching at all in 2009, especially since he just extended his CBS contract one more year. So if Zorn does flop, I'm sure Danny will offer the Chin a billion dollars.
Third, it would be a pretty lame move to panic and get Shanahan just to keep Dallas from signing him.
over the mountain
12-31-2008, 12:21 PM
He does have a relationship with Jones, they were speculating this morning on ESPN radio that he could end up there. I wouldn't put it past Jones despite what he's saying about keeping Phillips.
i really respect shannahan, i would hate to see him head over to dallass. the one thing that team needs is a strong HC and i would be down right scared next year if he does join the boys.
SBXVII
12-31-2008, 02:43 PM
Relax!! Shanahan won 2 SB with Elway, what has he done since? All this guys are over rated, look at Atlanta's case they hired Mike Smith. Who the hell was he before? A no name coach who can obviously coach, there are some folks out there that given the chance can be successful. Don't panic.
Ok, I have a question. I totaly agree with you. I'm on the bubble about letting Zorn go. I believe a HC needs atleast 2-3 yrs to impliment his scheme before dumping, but I'm not impressed with some of the other things we are not seeing from Zorn; Like adjusting during games, adjusting at half time, adjusting during the season. I did not see anything that would lead me to believe he has the ability to adjust. This is a major item a coach needs to be able to do. Read what the other team is doing and change your scheme or rather tweek it to keep the other team off balance. All he did was go out and run his scheme and win lose or draw he stuck with it. Then later he called it lack or execution.
Now my question....The other teams that changed coach's this yr....did they have to change a whole offensive scheme or did the owners bring in coach's that ran the same similar scheme? I ask this cause Atlanta is in the play offs, Miami is in the play offs. Two piss poor teams last yr and they are now in the play offs. Why? are we lacking talent, or was it we had a whole new scheme to learn, or was it lack of coaching ability, or do you think it was something else?
Trust me I'm not busting on you. I really don't know the answer. I can't figure it out. Why is it that the Skins who have been in the play offs are out and a 1-15 team last yr is in? I don't get it. What happened between the first half of the yr and the second? injuries? Why wasn't there an adjustment made? I just don't get it. Why is it that for a "Passing offense" Zorn is bringing us we could not do better then 10 yrd passes? Timing and blocking? Nice but we have been in this predicament for the last 5 yrs and Gibbs system and Saunders system was meant run offenses with down the field passes. not 5-10 yrd passes with a bunch of screens thrown in. Gibbs did not do that in his first tenure. Yes an occassional screen but he took chances passing down the field.
Excuse after excuse. Brunell can't pass beyondl 10 yrds. JC is learning the scheme. Too small of WR's. No #1 WR. Terrible pass blocking. I'm getting into the act as well in saying it's Hixon. I just don't get it.
There's significant turnover in the playoff teams each year. I think there's 7 new teams this year and I remember hearing there's almost always at least 5 new teams each year. So there's no sense in trying to figure out why a team goes 1-15 one year and makes the playoffs the next.
i really respect shannahan, i would hate to see him head over to dallass. the one thing that team needs is a strong HC and i would be down right scared next year if he does join the boys.
As long as JJ thinks he knows personnel I don't think there's alot to be concerned about with Dallas. And don't forget about TO, they'll continue to be a weekly soap opera with him there.
SBXVII
12-31-2008, 03:04 PM
^Sorry.lol. just venting. I know I'll end up with the typical responces....
It's Snyder
It's Vinnie
It's Zorn
I know we have rehashed this over and over in some of the other blogs. It's just it looks like every yr someone comes up with a new excuse and it seems or looks like the team addresses that problem. Then we come out the next yr with the same results and everyone comes up with a new excuse. If your a "It's Snyder or Vinnie" person I guess you might as well resolve that it's not going to change. If your a "It's Zorn" type of person I guess you have one more yr to waite. If your a "It's O/D-Line" we only have what 4 picks this yr so I hope we address the need. keep in mind one player does not make a team and if we pick up one good O and D lineman then what if they get hurt? we suck again.